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Unit_01
hello,

Just wanted to know how i should go about fibreglassing this area on my door.

The fibreglassed area is going to be exactly the same as the standard one. Ill i want to do is make a whole in it so i can use my speaker grilles.

cheers.
92gen2
seems more trouble than what its worth. other than that either mount some MDF baffles on it and glass onto the door and mount the speaker onto it or just cut it away neatly and chuck the grilles in
Darkness_GR
What I would do is neatly cut away the section you want removed then cut out a frame of mdf and fibreglass from there. you could make a beauty panel to go over the top of the area or build a baffle into the new fg panel for the speaker to screw into. if its just to get the grill on isn't whats over it now a grill?


Cheers, Grant

Unit_01
QUOTE (Darkness_GR @ Oct 11 2008, 09:02 AM) *
What I would do is neatly cut away the section you want removed then cut out a frame of mdf and fibreglass from there. you could make a beauty panel to go over the top of the area or build a baffle into the new fg panel for the speaker to screw into. if its just to get the grill on isn't whats over it now a grill?


Cheers, Grant


yeah the grille thats on it now is the factory one. That grille in the picture is molded onto the actual door. I just dont know how im going to attach the custom panel onto the door...
DEVILs
Is that section removable?

What are you wanting to do EXACTLY... leave the speaker where it is and JUST put the speakers aftermarket grill over the top? Or bring the speaker out ontop of the door trim?

If the latter then it will be worth while and not too hard to do.

If you are only putting the aftermarket grill on then it would probably look a bit weird TBH.
Unit_01
QUOTE (DEVILs @ Oct 12 2008, 10:34 PM) *
Is that section removable?

What are you wanting to do EXACTLY... leave the speaker where it is and JUST put the speakers aftermarket grill over the top? Or bring the speaker out ontop of the door trim?

If the latter then it will be worth while and not too hard to do.

If you are only putting the aftermarket grill on then it would probably look a bit weird TBH.


nah mate, that section isnt removable, its molded onto the whoel door.

Yeah mate, what i was expecting to do was just make a fibreglass section for that section so i could use my aftermarket speakers.

And when installing the speakers, should i mount it directly onto the metal or make a mdf cutout then mount the mdf to the metal then mount the speker on the mdf

thanks.
KGB
If possible use some MDF. First try and seal the mdf with some kinda paint to stop it swelling up with water like a sponge in case your doors leak. Often the door surface isn't perfectly even, so you can screw down the MDF and then seal it against the door with some silicon. Then you mount your speaker to the mdf and dont have to worry about drilling holes in your car. Use some thin, closed cell foam to make a gasket for the speaker against the mdf.

Bob's yer muthers bruther.

I'm still not sure why and what exactly you want to FG. Unless the new speakers have big issues with depth/clearance you should just be able to mount them under the stock trim.
milehigheric
I think he just wants to cut the stock speaker cover out and replace it with his after market speaker grills, using fg to fill the gap?If you want to do it you would need a neat cutter tool such as a dremel rotary or something small and maneuverable. Cut the old section out and then decide wether you want it flush mounted, bolted on top or just fibregalss the grill right in.

-If you want to flush mount the grill so its flat with the rest of the trim (but not just glass it straight in) you will need to make a mount for it to screw into. Doesnt have to be anything solid, just enough for you to get glass on there.
-If you want to go easy, just fg over the entire section you removed and then bolt the grill on
-If you plan on repainting the grill you could glass it straight in, make some temp mounting points to hold it in place then stretch some material to fill all your gaps and then glass.

I think honestly it will look pretty gross...This is one of those times that stock is better than custom
Unit_01
QUOTE (KGB @ Oct 13 2008, 08:28 PM) *
If possible use some MDF. First try and seal the mdf with some kinda paint to stop it swelling up with water like a sponge in case your doors leak. Often the door surface isn't perfectly even, so you can screw down the MDF and then seal it against the door with some silicon. Then you mount your speaker to the mdf and dont have to worry about drilling holes in your car. Use some thin, closed cell foam to make a gasket for the speaker against the mdf.

Bob's yer muthers bruther.

I'm still not sure why and what exactly you want to FG. Unless the new speakers have big issues with depth/clearance you should just be able to mount them under the stock trim.


yeps ill do that, ust a couple questions:

- wat size MDF should i use? 10mm or smaller?
- And can i just use some cheap black spray paint to seal the MDF from moisture?
- And that foam can just be bought from Clark rubber yeah?
- And when mounting the amp (i got 2) do i just screw it straight onto chassis or should i screw MDF onto the chassis then screw the amp on the MDF?
cheers for the help mate.

QUOTE (milehigheric @ Oct 14 2008, 10:01 AM) *
I think he just wants to cut the stock speaker cover out and replace it with his after market speaker grills, using fg to fill the gap?If you want to do it you would need a neat cutter tool such as a dremel rotary or something small and maneuverable. Cut the old section out and then decide wether you want it flush mounted, bolted on top or just fibregalss the grill right in.

-If you want to flush mount the grill so its flat with the rest of the trim (but not just glass it straight in) you will need to make a mount for it to screw into. Doesnt have to be anything solid, just enough for you to get glass on there.
-If you want to go easy, just fg over the entire section you removed and then bolt the grill on
-If you plan on repainting the grill you could glass it straight in, make some temp mounting points to hold it in place then stretch some material to fill all your gaps and then glass.

I think honestly it will look pretty gross...This is one of those times that stock is better than custom


yeah im going to scrap that idea, dont think itll look too good.
liber8
Check this thread out!

http://www.mobileelectronics.com.au/forums...howtopic=544371
92gen2
QUOTE (Unit_01 @ Oct 14 2008, 01:22 PM) *
yeps ill do that, ust a couple questions:

- wat size MDF should i use? 10mm or smaller?
- And can i just use some cheap black spray paint to seal the MDF from moisture?
- And that foam can just be bought from Clark rubber yeah?
- And when mounting the amp (i got 2) do i just screw it straight onto chassis or should i screw MDF onto the chassis then screw the amp on the MDF?
cheers for the help mate.

yeah im going to scrap that idea, dont think itll look too good.


-10-18mm is fine
-any pressure can will do it
-clark rubber should sell foam seal
-mdf to chassis then amps onto mdf
KGB
Depending on the length of your screws and whether they clear the meatl you can even go thinner MDF, I've used 6mm before with no worries.
Pretty much any spray can will do.
Clark Rubber FTW.
Use Liquid Nails to attach the mdf to the chassis and then screw amp down into MDF. Screwing the amp directly into the chassis can create ground loops and introduce noise into your system. Screwing holes in your automobile is always best avoided where possible as well, Liquid Nails FTW. In some cases you dont even need to glue down the mdf, eg you can mount amps under the seats and screw the amp into the mdf through the carpet - the amp and mdf are effectively pinned together through the carpet.
Unit_01
cheers for the help guys.
yeah will defs end up liquid nailing the MDF to my chassis. Ive got a heap of 10mm MDF so might as well put it to good use.
and putin the amps under my front seats is all sweet right?
cheers.
KGB
just check for seat clearance, feet clearance from the back etc. Nothing worse than thwe seat sagging when someone sits on it and then they go to adjust the seat and slide straight across your amp... sad.gif

Actually there is worse things but I can't bear mentioning them.
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