goddam hidden "Loud" functions, and displays not giving u any indication that this ridiculous 'feature' is ON.

now i have to go back through all my eq and xovers to try and getting it sounding right, without the bloody Loud turned on (it was sounding pretty good except for boominess in the upper-sub/lower-midbass region, which i had put down to installation/door treatment

that is all.

A bit short to be a proper rant don't you think?

I'd take a leaf out of Shrek's little book of car audio wisdom if I were you, mate...



and also ~thematt~'s wise words...




mods can this be moved to the beginners section please?

that's friggin eclipse for you.

What was it that Phil K said about shit?

hey, i'm happy for this pile of poo to be deleted. just needed a little rant after finding out what was 'wrong' with the system this morning

and matt's words would be good, except eclipse dont provide u with a manual when u buy their headunits - just some 6page 'user guide' that tells u jack-all about anything
the proper manual is a 200-page pdf that u have to print urself from the website

You sure your dealer hadn't just opened the packaging and forgotten to put it back in, because every Eclipse I've had has come with the 200 page book.

its a possibility i guess. no dramas though - i am going back there in a couple weeks for something, so will ask then

All frustrations vented now Adam?

What ..... delete this thread and let you forget? .... fat chance of that


My 200 page Eclipse manual lives in my glove box .... along with a copy of all my settings

... That was a rant?

i'd class it more as a disgruntled declaration followed by a very short almost whinge.

hahaha i've done the same thing a few times........tis bloody annoying

Some people like the loud function...

Correct. I'm one of those people.

People who think the loud button is a waste obviously dont understand EQs and gain structure properly

people who like the loud button obviously cant use the eq and gains themselves

and people who use the loud function obviously dont realise how it messes with phase

So does a normal parrametric EQ...


personally i tune with "loud" off
but I will use it when I have the stereo at lower levels.

"loud"... whats "loud"?

loud is when your ears start to bleed with the first bang of the timpani on a good classical track

I hate the loud function. Yet 99.9% of people like it.

remember also, that 99.9% of people don't know what their music is supposed to sound like.

^nor do they care because sound quality is not the most important thing about music

^ give the man a choc chip cookie!

How often are you driving through the suburbs going "oh my god i have so much stage depth and the percussion is way out side of my side mirrors"
im tipping not very often. When im driving through the suburbs I generally turn my stereo down - particularly when there is kids about - these are the times the "loud" function comes in to its own adding in the bottom end a bit of a peak around the 80hz mark cause a lot of the low frequency information is lost through road noise etc. this information is particularly hard to hear at low volumes when its competing against the road noise so why not give it a bit of boost and make the music more lively and enjoyable to listen to at these times rather than something that is perfect SQ.

Agreed.

Although, there are some exceptions on this forum where I can point a finger in situations like this.

Of course...if you dont actually HAVE stage depth or width to start with.... then you probably wouldnt miss it driving around....