I was considering doing my wiring all over again guys....Is it worth it to spend the extra dollars on Stinger or Monsta cable or the Aerpor is just good enuff??? currently running 9835 H/U Ba Rally splits Boston Fx93 6"9 with an eclipse 3422 amps and with alpine m500 amp running Boston G5...i need imput please help!!!!! need to do it again this weekend :confused:

Are we talking Power or interconnects or both?

We have found with our Van that the stinger power cable is a lot easier to work with, but may not be what you are after, maybe the "cheaper" products may be able to do what you want...

What i mean is does the Stinger make a big different in sound quality?? connectivity etc...??? justify with the price tag!!!!! or Aerpro is just a average brand and will do the job just fine

Mate I reckon save ur money, the aeropro wire will serve you well. There won't be any audible difference in sound, so why bother

What i mean is "Does the extra money on the stinger justify the reason why they are better than aerpro by 5 times" or the sound quality is justify by that amount extra u paid for!!!! abit confuse!!!

Of course not. If you're getting no distortion out of your RCA's, then they're fine. If you're getting distortion, you might want to get a twisted pair of Stingers.

If your power cable can flow all the current you need, there is no need to upgrade. If it can't then look at bigger cable/better quality cable.

Other than that, the price difference isn't as massive as you think. Unless a full aerpro kit costs $80, a full stinger kit for your car would cost less than $400, probably about $350.

EDIT: Don't forget to add Audison Connection cable to that list - you should see how flexible their 0-guage is :shock:

I would much be appreciated if any of the Admin have input or an experience stereophiles input in this....

http://www.caraudioaustralia.com/forums/sh...ead.php?t=42277


Have a read of that mate,


The basic differences between brands are strands of copper within the cable, and flexiility of the tubing. If you are satisfied with what you have, there is no urgent need to upgrade, you will achieve better SQ results putting that money into deadening etc.

So in another word!! they do make a different like saying 99.80 compared to something like 99.95 but all you do is pay for the name and thats your big price tag!!!

Don't I qualify?

It's not just price tag!

Better cable is considerably more flexible. Better cable will also carry MORE current with LESS resistance. And most importantly, better cable will carry more sheer power than the same equivalent "size" of a poorer quality cable.

Some poorer quality cabling called "8 guage" or "4 guage" has about 4 strands of copper and is nearly all "jacket" - the plastic that surrounds the wire.

Also, poorer quality cable will not have a consistent "thickness" of the jacket/wire - which can cause more problems.

In regards to RCA's, the higher quality the cable, the less interference.


As I said before, if your cabling is carrying the required current, you aren't suffering voltage drop, and your RCA's aren't inducing noise, then you have no need to upgrade!

Stinger, Monster, RF, Lightning Audio, DEI...etc...etc...

All of it is good cable...Audible differences...I'll pass on that one but will say that there is a huge difference in quality between the above mentioned ones and the Aerpro stuff...in my experience the Aerpro accessories eg: Fuseholders, distro blocks etc are absolute crap..very poor quality grub screws that strip out with very little effort for that reason don't stock em anymore...IMHO the DEi wiring kits are awesome value and are of very high quality...certainly the ones I have installed have been great...

PS: VtirBoy...I see you made a decision on the subwoofer...if you don't mind me asking what made you go with the Boston over the others you were considering?

the reason y i go for boston is bc of the price i can get them which is pretty good..secondly subs woofer like speaker i can hear a major different b/t boston and other brands...but interm of wiring u guys should considered read this http://www.caraudioaustralia.com/fo...ead.php?t=42277 bc u say its audiable lols!!!! but i think to me as long its good quality build its good enuff for me..but interm of stinger or moster cable i think mainly its a wank FACTOR more than audiable to me...sorry to say and aerpro is just an example i use not that im goin with aerpro

I could understand that if u goin for comp and the system is 40K plus every little thing counts but for everyday music and usage for me it wouldnt justify..but im open to suggestion if its provided by FACTS!!! NOT on opinions..

im not going to talk about different speaker cables and rca wires

pick what looks good for you

however i would recommend a stinger 1/0 gauge power wire kit which will cover any amp upgrades or changes you ever make. These can be had for under $200

battery terminals ditribution blocks i do recommend quality products from brands like monster, pg, stinger lightning, rf. These are worth the extra dollars.

heres what i would do

distribution block from say stinger 1/0 to dual fused 4gauge
1/0 stinger kit
rcas..whatever you like the look of
speaker cable 12 to 16gauge (i use 12 gauge since it looks cool)


should work well

i say go for a decent quality cables for the build quality.
better quality power cables have more copper and less plastic. i have stinger, aerpro and fusion at home all 4g. the fusion to me looks more like 6g than 4g, the aerpro is a bit better and the stinger looks like proper 4g...

with RCA's look for something with a largish plug, i have the stinger helix and they are POS! i have 2 pair and have had to repair all the plug's except one set of end's (they need to be repaired at the moment) all cause the plug is to small and dosent hold the cable proply in them...

dont start this subject again. another :
cable makes a difference guys VS i bet if we did a blind test you couldnt hear any difference guys
A conversation i have seen many times here and never ever agreed upon. Personal choice i think. I think the difference is all in the mind

i don't mind using cheap power cable, but i would go for a size larger than a dearer brand.
e.g. i was recently using a mix of Audison 2 gauge and Aerpro 0 guage, which i consider ot be pretty equal in current handling ability.

RCA's are the most important part of the cabling system to me, and i use stinger expert.
there's about $1000 worth of RCA's in my system (4 sets of RCAs and 2 splitters)
but my system is worth about $15 000 , so RCA's represent about 5% of the total cost. i think that's fair.
at 5%, on a $3000 system it would translate to about $150

i can hear a difference between cables, and i'm not interested in getting into a discussion on why, but, i do feel that the differences offered by expensive cables are only apparent on high end systems,
i'd much rather spend $3300 on a system and $200 on cables, than $2000 on a system and $1500 on cables.
get what i mean?

I use Fusion RCA's from my old system and the SOB's wiggle around and generally piss me off.

Apart from that Stinger Power cables, stinger fuse holder, stinger rca's for the mono.

The new audison stuff is teh hectik, y0. Was having a play with it at FHRX's the other day and was vedy, vedy impressed. :

BTW - my suggestion... live the life la donnie (thats me btw) style... cigarettes and 2 minute noodles... and treat yourself to audison...

my stereo at the moment cost me $830
so 5% for cables is $41.50 hehe

well for your second admin opinion :wink: ....
i've tried all the brands you've listed there, installed all of them in different systems (even the old CAA mini hehe), and i'm really with ben and bobby in their points. i'm running PG Zeropint 0ga in my car, with Stinger Expert series 0ga for earth and from distribution blocks, does it make a difference to using Aerpro 0ga? well i stick by the quality point of view on that one, its subjective and god knows its been discussed to death, and raised, and killed and raised, and....well you get the point
me = yes for paying for the brand stuff

see.... it works!

how do fusion rca's weigh up in the scheme of things?

I have them running into a mtx rt202 into hertz dsk 145... thoughts?

Who knows if cable makes a difference, but if you have the $$$ then why not splurge?

Hence why im doing my whole system in stinger expert series

I agrees if u have a high end system every little things is important for comps, but mine system is onli around 3Kish mark i dun have the money to spend 1k just on rca, probably 2 hundreds wont be a problems...anyone with recomendations with other alternative brands which is decents but wont break the budgets!!!!!

stinger pg rf or lightning distro blocks and connections

stinger nitro or lightning bolt series rcas work well and are very cheap

aeropro 1/0 gauge is cheap and works extremely well ( i have pg areopro stinger and lightning power cable all work well)

aerpro 1/0 g, RCA is stinger nitro or lighting audio series and stinger distribution block and connections roughtly how much rrp??? can u give me a ball park figure so i can budget!! much appreciated

I run aeropro basically everything as its readily available. I do however use stinger terminal clips no real reason but they look nice and terminal clips are worth basically next to nothing for the little ones.

I had an aerpro circuit breaker and it failed on me, just little dodgy, so i went and got a aeropro fuse holder lol. Stinger is expensive but id say its worth it however i dont believe it makes a noticable audible difference.

For your everyday system go with aeropro, if you compete in SQ/SPL comps then maybe stinger is the way to go just so you know 100% that your getting the most and your using the best. (<--not saying it is just figure speech :s)

don't forget that stinger have cheap ranges of cablnig too!
their Hyper series cables are graet for those who're on a budget. i think i paid $40 for a 3m cable last i bought one.

i use stinger fuse holders and battery terminal both are CPT and i love them, so easy to use pitty they dont have the CPT anymore..

Monster is the highest quality, rugged and 100% reliable. BUT Monster's Car range doesn't come into Australia, so you can cross it off your list.
Aerpro is fine, but get Stinger RCA's. Aerpro RCA's are awful for induced noise.

i've seen Monster cable in Morley car stereo..(correct me if i'm wrong)

garys car radio or jb hi fi sometimes have aeropro or equivalent power cable

1/0 gauge can be had for less than $20 per meter

rcas looking around $25 each

speaker wire $4 per meter for 12gauge stinger but dna is good and can be had for $2per meter 16 gauge.

jb hi fi has lots of stinger accessories youll have to go there and see what you need

id look at a distribution block 1/0 to dual 4 gauge, fuses, and a fuse holder nesar the battery terminal plus a fuse for that

or

stinger 1/0 kit for $190
stinger distribution block less than $100
fuses $20
rcas stinger nitro $60 for two sets of 5meter
i guess 16meters for speaker wire but you have to measure this (stinger 12 gauge for $64)

so you get an idea...but its best to go and look at a few car audio stores to get a better idea

I just got the subs tonight!!! BA subs are ****in good!!!! with my cap and my box...I have to get cables tormow fanx guys for the input..much apppreciated

Go to Strathfield Car Radios and get some Streetwires RCAs....

Now don't be fooled by the fact that Strathfield sell Streetwires...Streetwires is actually on the upper end of the spectrum, along with PG, Rockford Fosgate, Lightning Audio and Stinger.

They have a more modest priced set of RCAs which would probalby only set you back around $80 for 2 sets. I think that is reasonable.

Is the home audio gear different? i.e the RCA's

Neill, they have a different range for home audio.
i wouldn't call Monster the highest quality, but they certainly have some very hi-spec cabling.
to my understanding, they were teh company that initiated the "cables affect sound" theory.

Yes, Monster Home is different to Monster Car. Monster car is more resilient and designed to be easy to work with in confined spaces. Plus their wiring for RCA's for cars is different to home (IE. Twisted Pair).

I assure you, Monster Car does not come into the country. Shame really, awesome for SPL applications :wink:

monster car stuff sure looks incredible too

pitty its not available here

have you guys checked out the audison cable yet?

I had a good look at the stuff last time I was at FHRX and was damn impressed. If it's aesthetic quality dictares it's performance... well you do the maths.

VERY competitively priced IMO.

Cheers Black an Bob...
Ive been using Monster RCA's on my home TV/Amp etc and never would have twigged that they differ.
Ive got 3 pairs and have been used since 95' and havnt had a prob with em but me runs an touchs wood!!!

Its simple, power cable just varies slightly in thickness but as its usually over specified for actual duty using a cheaper or thinner cable wont be an issue, ie brand X 4 awg Vs brand Y 4 awg. If you need 1/0 awg for your current draw then usinf 8 awg will cause problems obviously. However there is a big difference in the quality of fuse holders and termination products and as this is a safety item you should use quality units. The cheap stuff can be a fire hazard even if it looks just the same as the quality units.

With Rca's go for quality so it is 1 reliable and 2 looks good.

I wouldnt touch the cheap fittings as any work I do needs to be safe as thats something I dont think can be compromised. I prefer to use the better power cables as the added flexability means I can hide the cable easier as buldges arent acceptable to me either or my customers.
peace
Cyberpunky