Do anyone ever heard of this brand ?

My friend told me it's very good for SQ, but never heard anyone in Australia using this particular brand.

Comments ?

-CHEERS-

i dont belive genesis has ever been sold in aust.

DLS and Genesis used to come out of the same factory, thats changed and they went there own way but both still look the same and both are top quality.

and DLS are sold in aust!

I had an old Genesis 4 channel amp back in the day...Stinger Australia bought them in...it was an awesome little amplifier and one I miss a lot

As per above the Genesis and high end DLS amps have a lot in common. Both are regarded as top noth amps so buy buy buy.

It is true that DLS and Genesis used to came out from the same factory... Genesis and DLS Ultimate series physically have a lot in common... however if you are take a look inside the casing, they are a completely different setup... DLS Ultimate has been around for quite a while that's why it looks alike with the Genesis amplifier... DLS is planning to re-design the Ultimate series pretty soon...

In term of cost wise, DLS A3 Twin Mono is cheaper than Genesis Dual Mono... I haven't tried Genesis so i couldn't comment on them but the DLS A3 is a very american style amplifier... dynamic and bright... if you are not into American style, go for DLS Reference... very european... warm and mellow... and cheaper too... worth every single cents... I haven't seen Genesis for quite a long time... lots of people prefer to go for Phass HP100 or DLS A3 Twin Mono as they are around the same $$$ figure...

BTW, Genesis Reference series speaker 3 ways cost as expensive as Focal Utopia Be 3 ways with crossblock !@!#$%^$#&

Genesis sound very similar to DLS Ultimate. A very good amp. buy it and U will never look back unless you are upgrading to Tru copper or Thesis HV Venti or milbert. The new prototype DLS is the milbert killer!!!!! So watch out !!!!!!

Not doubting your views Henry, but you ARE aware that the internals of the Reference and Ultimate series amps are practically identical, dont you? I'm not talking hearsay, i'm running DLS A3 and A6 amps in my install and i've sold a number of Reference amps... so i fail to see how largely identical circuitry will impart the sound qualities you mention...

The main bonus of the Ultimates is the inbuilt thermal fan regulation and the massively oversized power supplies, which lead to a near square power cube and therefore still great response and output when over driven or run to low impedances. At normal impedances and normal volumes, i'd be incredibly surprised if anyone could pick the difference in a blind test

I believe genesis is a very good amplifier. Wondering if i can get genesis amp in australia..

daryanto, r u from indo? genesis is a very popular brand there.

Black Razor,
I must agree with Henry here as i have heard these two amps in-car through a switching jig & i can confirm that the Reference do indeed sound warmer than the Ultimate. The Ultimate tend to have more of a sharper attacking sound charicteristic to them. Try a comparison, i'm sure you'll find the same.

Yes I am, one of the audio store back home told me that Genesis is much better than Zapco, SQ wise

<shrugs> Whatever beleif makes you happy i guess... What would i know afterall, i only sell the stuff (and compare them) on a daily basis...

Oh WOW this is the first time I ever know that someone really got a pair of blind ears. even my little Shi-tsu would pick the difference up straight away. in a blind test, you must have a pair of blind ears otherwise you will spot the obvious difference in every bands of the spectrum.

It is very funny if you do the comparison everyday and didn't notice the difference. The right wording in your post must be " I only sell them + I never listen to any DLS amp"

I believe DLS only choose distributer who UNDERSTAND THE WORD SQ & Konw what they are doing with SQ.

I have been doing ABC test between Classic, Reference and Ultimate before. I have been in Team DLS long enough to try everything in DLS range. When I say try... it is not in the stupid demo board at some of the local audio shop. I tested everything in my home theatre room. So it is a propper setup.

Thank you for that incredibly insulting post. You did a wonderful job of making a personal attack both on my personal ability, and my integrity. My hats off to you, its incredibly difficult to be as nimrodic as you just came across and it must have taken a lot of carefuly thought and consideration.

I run DLS Ultimate amps, the A3 and A6, in my car on a daily basis. I am intimately familiar with the sound, how they work, and how to get the most out of them. I am also an SQ judge, competitor, and experienced retailer. I make a personal habit of sitting down with each and every product we sell when we first access it, to aquaint myself with the ins and outs of how they perform, and i do this within the confines of the environment they will be used in : a car. You, on the other hand, as far as i can tell, are nothing more than an arrogant twit who loves nothing more than to gorge himself on every shred of marketing bollocks that gets fed to him by anyone with half a chance, without a single shred of reason or scientific logic behind it. And then you have the balls to insult me because i dare to suggest that you might be wrong.

At no point before the post of yours did i make any form of personal attack against you, so why do you feel the need to attack me in turn? Are you so insecure about your antiquated and baseless views that you need to attack me instead of actually doing the rational thing and providing some logical proof of your beleif? Perhaps its because you cant provide any?

Bah... i'm stopping now, i'm too worked up to formulate a decent reply... I remember now why i hardly visit this forum anymore : there is some incredible advice available here and yet it is so mangled up with all forms of unprovable and baseless psychoacoustic mumbo jumbo that its practically impossible to figure out whats what. God help the poor beginner who stumbles in here and reads rot like what you just posted.

My final question to you, Mr Golf_BHT, is the same i ask all the people who make these absurd claims : If you can hear such a clear difference between all these amps at normal undistorted volumes, then why arent you $10,000 richer at the expense of Richard Clarke? I would have thought it easy money for someone with such a 'highly trained ear' as yourself, something as simple as choosing between two amps you swear are so different

My apologies to the mods : i do not intend to sully this forum with such bickering, but all i hope is that this nimrod sees the post before you delete it. Thanks.

I'm waiting for the sound of wire comments here as well

Golf:
Firstly, if you can hear the differences between the amps then feel free to pick up $10k from Richard Clarke.. i'm sure he'd be interested to see that you can hear the difference between amps.

Secondly, there was no need to make personal comments against anyone, let alone make it personal of compare a human to a dog (though dogs do hear above 20kHz.. so maybe your dog has a leg or 4 to stand on ) and feel free to disagree with me on humans hearing above 20kHz.. cos they can't - its proven and you've got the hearing of your dog if you can hear ultrasound..

Thridly, bickering gets you and BR at the point of Bobby_digital and John Yi of Tru Tech.. sitting in the middle of sweet FA with nothing remotely subject oreintated..

Hmm - understanding SQ huh? Well considering that BR is involved with SQ New Zealand and has some very good ears.. maybe you should re-evaluate your opinion.. Apart from writing for a local magazine, helping me develop a SQ culture in NZ and selling quality product to consumers, BR knows his stuff and me thinks its time for you to STFU..

So basically we are left with answering the question of the genesis amps.. good stuff as I have read, though i haven't experienced them first hand