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~Spyne~
well, what an absolutely wonderful day!
perfect weather, top venue a HUGE turnout...and a bit of contraversy too! (the am. st. boys know what i mean)
plenty of new faces, heaps of familiar ones too. the pro show boys were happy not to see rich's face around and congrats to all the winners. big thanks to eclipse, caa admin, the boys at stylyn and all the competitors and spectators who turned up on the day. if we had turn-outs like this at every event, we would never hear any talk about caasq's future being in trouble.

again, congrats to all the winners on the day, and hopefully we can have an even better turn out at the next event in november

i think the one thing that can be taken out of the day is...reverse gear is not necessary if u have a totally pumpin stereo


team out of phase/team frequency steer signing off
Timm3h
I agree with all of that ~Spyne~, and I dont think we would be out of place asking exactly what the hell happened. I know I would love to be able to have my car rejudged at the same comp...... Another question... Do the other states use CD103, or that Alpine disc....?

:mellow: :huh: ohmy.gif sad.gif blink.gif mad.gif
CVBASS
well i got home bout 45mins ago, was great to meet some people finally, and was good to talk to the people i did... kinda wished i got up early and entered the comp! Oh well maybe next time..
oh and i left before it finished, who won the classes??
im buggered after 5 hours of driving!
Fudd
ohhh what a long day sad.gif just got home haha..

Great day and exelent turn out too!

congrats all to who competed!
Iceman_jkh
yay for controversy! tongue.gif

glad it was a success biggrin.gif - pissed i had to work mad.gif

cant wait to read more as it develops smile.gif
nemesis
yeh guys, was a great day overall, and i must say (no disrespect to any other stores of course) but excellent venue, probably the best car audio store i've been in i honestly think, top stuff stylyn! wink.gif

i'd be interested to see the end results too, just how close was it? but hey its a competition and was a heck of alot of compeditors today which was good i guess. oh and now i guess i know why i had engine noise...checkout the links to what happened on the way home sad.gif

magic smoke trail 1
more magic smoke

sad.gif my wallet feels very, very thin sad.gif
~Spyne~
hmmm, in the first pic i see what looks like a burn hole in the black plastic trim, but in the second pic i dont see what the prob is...????
oh, and get a steady hand mate, lol
MRS.TEK
What a great comp. So many people, perfect weather. it was great. Thanks to everyone involved and Happy Birthday again to Bobby_Digital.
Marc
Well what was undoubtedley the best event this year!

I must thank the guys at Stylyn and Eclipse, but also the judges who are getting more experienced as time goes on too.

I'd like to clear up some controversy before it gets out of hand.

Firstly, a mathematical error, saw 2nd and 3rd place mixed up, and unfortunately Blanketman was incorrectly awarded 2nd. In fact, Dominique was second and the trophies were reawarded. This was a very simple error in calculation and I must thank Blanket for being very co-operative and understanding. We always encourage competitors to check ALL scores, as the judges as you can imagine have to add LOTS of numbers up all day long and it does get confusing on the judging sheets.

We also decided that at all future events, the following will happen:

Two judges sheets will be filled out and each section marked as per current way. Totals however will NOT be added up. The sheet will be run through with the competitor after they have been judged, but they will NOT be given their judging sheet at this time.

The judges will then pass the completed sheets to myself, MRS.TEK, who will calculate (and double check) all scores. These will then be recorded on the sheets.

Presentation is when competitors will find out how they have placed, and all competitors will recieve their judging sheets directly after presentation.

Not only will this avoid all future errors on calculations, it will also keep a little suspense with who has won, placed etc.

Next... Victoria has continued to use the Alpine First Encounter disc this season as we did not want to change discs mid season. Most competitors were aware of this, and it has been said on the forums. 2006 season will see ALL states using My Disc CD103.

Lastly, in the case where a competitor re-entered the lanes. This car was NOT "rejudged" so to speak. I would like to clarify to avoid any speculation. The competitor had made some last minute changes to the system and managed to reverse the left and right channels. This was evident when the car was being judged. Now in all previous cases, when this happened, the judges would call the competitor over and tell them, exit the vehicle and allow them to fix it before continuing to judge the car. This is what happened today, but in a slightly different way. The car was completed judging, and the competitor was told about the problem.

They asked if they can fix it, and the judges recheck it. The response was (due to time constraints) to fix it and then it will be rechecked at the end.

This is what happened, and the car was NOT rejudged, the judges simply checked that it was now in fact correct, and adjusted ONLY that component of the judging sheet (so as to not give the competitor any opportunity to retune the car based on the feedback from the days judging of it).

So in effect this was no different to what has ever happened in the past, and the same would be done for any competitor (and has been).

I hope that clears it up, and I hope that ends any speculation. Most importantly guys, some members STILL need to remember this is all about good fun with our stereos, and some feedback as well. Its still being taken too seriously by some competitors.

Just remember why we are all there, and as soon as it gets too serious, more rules are required, more judges are required, more training is required, it gets more difficult, it becomes less fun, it scares off new competitors, it gets too competitive, it stops happening. (IASCA, CAN and all our previous competition formats in Australia).

Thanks for a great day, and we must remember to thanks the ones often forgotten.... especially Ainz for organising entries, cars etc etc (all the stuff I take the credit for... LOL). smile.gif

Thanks guys.
shiny_car
oh man, sounds like a great day i missed out on. sad.gif

congrats to all winners...whoever you are. biggrin.gif *awaits results*

QUOTE (nemesis @ Oct 16 2005, 10:29 PM)
now i guess i know why i had engine noise...checkout the links to what happened on the way home sad.gif

magic smoke trail 1
more magic smoke

sad.gif my wallet feels very, very thin sad.gif
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wtf happened there?!!! blink.gif oh no, not a VRx! ohmy.gif

man, hate to think you bought a dodgy secondhand amp all along. hopefully it's nothing major and easy to fix. did you do well otherwise? did you run the PG monobloc?

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Sierra
Yeah .... it sure was an excellent day today!

As a first timer to one of these events I was a bit apprehensive about competing, but in the end I was very glad that I did .... who would have thought that I would have ended up with an award!! biggrin.gif
A special thanks to Simon (Pulse-R) for giving me some tips and helping me fine tune my head unit this morning.

It was also really good to be able to put some faces to the names that we see here on the forums.

Thank you all for a great day.

Cheers,

Alan.
Fudd
hmmm fungus... not good at all but yeah could explain the noise..


shiny i now have more trophys than you this year biggrin.gif but the same amount of wins wink.gif
Marc
Results tomorrow ... too tired..

Oh but Shiny, looks like you have yet ANOTHER Pro Show to compete with now too. Clarion Demo car took out first place AND best presented vehicle. tongue.gif
jas
great day perfect weather

thanks to everyone involved for an amazing event

special thanks to all the judges whom gave up their only free day of the week.

well done to stylyn

it was great to see industry involvement with Eclipse making the event possible

demo cars from Rf, alpine, clarion with awesome installs smile.gif
awesome to see installs that you can only dream of having.

also great to see other stores making an appearance too, with the guys from hektik bringing an amazing looking car to show off.

it would be nice if every event has a store represented like a car from stylyn (like madtravs), hektik, freeway, glprosound. It could be the installers challenge cup smile.gif
shiny_car
QUOTE (Marc @ Oct 16 2005, 11:47 PM)
Oh but Shiny, looks like you have yet ANOTHER Pro Show to compete with now too. Clarion Demo car took out first place AND best presented vehicle. tongue.gif
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bring it on! biggrin.gif all these uber-schmick demo cars built by highly skilled installers with whole catalogues of gear to choose from...pfffft. wink.gif

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Tiger
I was gobsmacked at this turnout. Well done to all.
Yet another pleasurable day to be apart of and it always good to see new faces with new cars arrive on the day. Sierra, I am still surprised at how well the fronts sounded in your car. Perfect example of not having to go "all out" to get a good sound... but then there are competitors like (cough) Shiny_Car (cough) who didn't make it and the (cough cough) Clarion Car (cough) that took First Place AND Best Presented. haha. Nah, well done to ALL competitors.
Thank you Marc for the clear up on those couple of notes. Appreciated.
Weather couldn't have been better, and trust me, I got some good use out of that ICE next to the BBQ after I finished cooking! My face got slightly burnt. Good thing though, I have color now... smile.gif YAY!
Good to see Bobby_Digital using both legs on the same day and not being carted around by a wheelchair after his legless weekend! Happy B'Day dude smile.gif
And yes..... eye candy... I'm sure Nyko was a happy man after the day was out tongue.gif And all those standing behind Nyko at the time watching the interview... even happier tongue.gif hahahaha (Kicker Cat and Spyne will know what I mean by this one) wink.gif
Keith and Adam, thanks heaps for allowing us the opportunity to hold the event, Eclipse for your continued support and co-operation... not to mention patience during the process of judging tongue.gif and to all those supporting the competitors or just showing up to see what's the deal, thank you for coming and I hope it continues in this path.

Remember guys/girls... at the end of the day, we're here to have fun...
Let's try and keep it that way smile.gif

And nooo... I wasn't trying to pick up the ex-Cadence girl that was interviewing for PSI.... My sister was in the building, so I had to behave tongue.gif J/K
CVBASS
eye candy indeed biggrin.gif
~Spyne~
definitely agree with that one tiger...bloody took u long enough to get out of the way!

oh yeah, i forgot to thank the judges for their time and advice on the day too!
Tiger
Sorry, was I in you way for a while? Oops... my bad! tongue.gif
hahahahaha
s_tim_ulate
Yeah once again Tim cops the wrath of controversy wink.gif

Oh well, enjoyable day still, great weather, some nice eye candy (the cars obvioulsy) tongue.gif

Anyway I was happy with the 2nd, just wanted to know the details of the re-checking. As long as the best car won I'm not fussed. But where do we draw the line for rechecking, I frequently change my car settings last minute, say I adjust my sub level too loud. Am I allowed to adjust this back. In my first comp I was out of phase (An obvious fault that would take two seconds to fix up). Once I almost entered with my ambients L+R swapped over. But on all these occasions it has been my fault for doing this, I listen to my car beforehand and should pick up all these faults. (Alpine test tracks have tests for left and right channels as they do for being in phase, not to mention that all music will sound different when ur listening to it back the front.
In regards to RCA's being swapped around, doesnt this form part of left and right channel verification? This means that there is an actual judgeable category for this aspect (As it is a fairly major part of SQ it is worth 10 points.)

When I saw it being re-checked I thought it was just to provide some verbal feedback (so a days money wasnt wasted). In a way it was being rejudged as the judges had realised that one of the judgeable aspects was incorrect, then got him to change it then checked this again.

I'm all for the good atmosphere, but if it happened to me, say I accidentally flatten my battery and lose my settings, leave my mids out of phase (or pick the wrong eq settings like someone in round 4 wink.gif) then you expect to be penalised, this is what makes competition so interesting.

Anyway, I noticed the ambience category has been scrapped from our scoresheets. If "left and right channel verification" is such that it can be fixed up if it's wrong, why don't we scrap that too?

No hard feelings towards Adhika, I have no doubt that his car was better than mine on the day. Thats all that matters in the end, just hoping to clear it up to avoid anymore conflicts in other comps.

Thanks to all for organising and Stylyn for the kickass venue.

Back to the drawing board, see you all at next comp hopefully. I guess with double points Adhika has almost secured a spot in the finals. Hope everyones planned their time off for it, should be a blast.

Cheers

Tim
Damo95
QUOTE (Tiger @ Oct 17 2005, 09:24 AM)
And nooo... I wasn't trying to pick up the ex-Cadence girl that was interviewing for PSI.... My sister was in the building, so I had to behave tongue.gif J/K
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sure you werent John.. tongue.gif

man, she is my missus mate.. what you got to worry about??
well, i was clickin away at her most of the day when she was around.. funny thing was john, chrissy was checkin her out as much as the boys.. haha

good day was had by all, myself included..
i entered the cruiser, like a said i would.. and i got the feedback i was expecting.. thanx guys.. back to the drawing board with the front stage..

good to see the newbies get into it, and CVBASS.. good to see your car man.. was worth the drive down like i said it would be!! wink.gif

good turnout, great weather, awesome venue..
cant forget to thank the judges for their time and effort, as well as the organisers..
and yes, i'll thank myself for the pics which i will get to marc over the next day or 2.. smile.gif

congrats to all the winners.
Marc
All I can add to the matter, is make the most of the next event, and National Finals.
Prestige1
thanx guys for a great day yesterday... gave me a good idea on what i need to tune up.. next time i'll block the fans off from the boot!! i no there abit noisy
CVBASS
Yeah was def worth the drive, was great to check out your car too damo.. and everyone elses... smile.gif
Oh and prestige1 your car was loud man!
Prestige1
thanx bro.... but i gotta give a special thanx to stylyn for the loudness!!! need to get it tuned up tho... its still how it was first installed so i dont blow the speakers!!! need to get the mid bass higher...

btw would ne1 b able to give info with car clubs... do u need to register them or nah???
golf_bht
Oh well I have managed to score pritty badly. Which CD will be used for the final? I Will have to do much more homework this time. The F1 CD sounded so different. it like competing in 2 different competition format in the same comp rules.
Prestige1
is 108/145 a bad score for the day????
~Spyne~
not for a first effort with little to no tuning, no.
thats 10 points more than me - yesterday was my first comp (my speakers were out of phase)

where did u lose majority of ur points?

mine was in stage depth and stereo imaging ability
s_tim_ulate
Nope thats pretty good!

The scores themselves arent really a reflection of how good ur system is. More the score in comparison to the other cars there on the day that they judge against.

As the season goes on cars improve.

Golf_bht, nice to have a listen to ur setup, urs is one I've wanted to listen to for a while now. Very different setup (brands and speaker locations) to most of the other guys which is good to see.

Hope you'll all be at the next one.

Cheers

Tim
Prestige1
i had poor mid bass 8.... car sub bass was a 9... mid was 11 highs was 13...

stage width was 4.. depth and height was 3

i forgot to close the arm rest bit to the amps... so u could hear the fans :S
blanketman
which car was your one prestige?

i had the black mirage
Prestige1
i had the silver ES300 lexus
Sierra
Click to view attachmentHere's a close up for you Damo95 tongue.gif
Damo95
that all sierra??

i got a real close one here.. tongue.gif

with my scores, i suffered more in the midrange to high as well as the stage height.. i know why, and i was kinda expecting it..
i also suffered in the 'photo log' and the consistency of theme as my interior is a work in progress.. but i got 107/130 for the main SQ part..

for the next comp, i will be moving the midrange to a more suitable spot.. gotta see if my idea will work..
MADTRAV
Top day.

Are those real... or Fake...

Thanks for making it a top event everyone
blanketman
what sq score did the rest of you get?
jas
would be nice to match the faces + cars + caa names together smile.gif

one day i might even have a car to enter a comp smile.gif

well done all round, it was a great day
~Spyne~
84/130 for sq section
*hangs head in shame*
but at least i know what to try to make it better next time
Timm3h
I wouldn't be too stressed ~Spyne~, all 'things' considered. Remember to get the phase checked on your speakers smile.gif How'd you go on mid/sub bass levels, outa interest?
s_tim_ulate
Yeah phase would have affected midbass and sub bass. Also imaging and sharp focused image.

It makes a huge difference
blanketman
how did both you go ??
Fudd
i won the last comp with my speakers out of phaze haha.

all fixed now.


i dont know my score.. the missus put my score sheet down with all the others sad.gif
Tiger
I have to say, I'm reading the second page of this thread and I am impressed on not so much everybody asking what did you guys get and thinking I'm better than yours... but you guys are actually discussing ways to get around where competitors may have fallen short in your SQ. That's really good to see, guys... I'm proud of the spirit that's in this thread smile.gif Keep it up... because it's additudes like this that will give reason to actually HOLD CAASQ 2006!
Sierra
QUOTE (Damo95 @ Oct 17 2005, 09:47 PM)
that all sierra??

i got a real close one here.. tongue.gif
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he he .... when I was showing my wife the pics I took during the day she commented on the number of pics I had of the blonde .... didn't think I had that many .... laugh.gif
Domza
Was a great day a bit of confusion toward the end but all cleared up.
Thanks to everyone who made it an enjoyable day.
People who were hesitant on the day who were not sure if they wanted to enter there car or not should just give it a go, because I auditioned some audio system's of those hesitant people and they would have been right up there amongst the winner's on the day.

Anyway look foward to the next event.
[JOGER]
Tra La La
roughcactus
Thanks to everybody who made the effort to come out and support the event. Adam, Trav, Nick and Myself were very happy with the turn out and quality of the cars that attended.

A special thanks to the BBQ chef Tiger...great work mate even if they were a little erm...overdone tongue.gif

It was nice to see some new faces giving CAASQ a whirl...hopefully they had a ball and will become comp regulars. Thanks again and we hope to see you at the next one smile.gif

Cheers,

Keith
Tiger
A note to all store owners that provide me with a BBQ to cook on...

NO HEAT BEADS NECESSARY!!! tongue.gif

I've noticed I end up virtually cooking the whole bbq for Cyberpunky because they all black out so quick!

My 2 cents worth tongue.gif
Damo95
QUOTE (roughcactus @ Oct 19 2005, 07:50 PM)
It was nice to see some new faces giving CAASQ a whirl...hopefully they had a ball and will become comp regulars.  Thanks again and we hope to see you at the next one smile.gif
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yes, it was good to see some new faces on the weekend.. myself included..
see Keith, i lived up to my promise... and learnt a lot from going..
so much in fact, that im gonna try something for the next comp to better my last score.. wink.gif

regular i will be.. biggrin.gif
Sierra
When is the next round? .... wouldn't mind going to that one too smile.gif
I've had a look around the forum and all I can see is Autosalon on the 12th & 13th .... I must be going blind!!
I thought there was another CAASQ event in November apart from Autosalon
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