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pigphama
Been having a tweek at a few problem we have been having.
pigphama
Some Pic's
KAL SPL
looks like you have been real busy . . .
Woob
rofl
KIRBO
Can that lil engine drive all that?
Jnr
hope it will tongue.gif there r more pics but i dnt have em. hopefully pigphama will post sum more soon
KAL SPL
Now thats a fire just waiting to happen . . .
DD Phil
QUOTE (Kirbo @ Jan 31 2006, 02:46 PM) *
Can that lil engine drive all that?


Can it drive it and stay under 2000rpm?

Just buy some batteries instead! smile.gif

Phil
pigphama
QUOTE (DD Phil @ Feb 1 2006, 08:36 PM) *
Can it drive it and stay under 2000rpm?

Just buy some batteries instead! smile.gif

Phil

At this stage un-tested but it should be able to be set for 2000 rpm. We already have 8x2.2v forklift batteries in the back.

We plan on putting 3x10mm laminated glass in the front screens and side door windows.

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pigphama
Here is some more of our handywork.

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First pic is Mon chiseling out some of the concrete in the roof cavity so I can complete the front screen frame. Second is me the old fart pushing concrete into the floor cavities and the last one is the finished doors after dirtykia filled them with, you guessed it, MORE CONCRETE. By the way the doors weighed after setting 55 kgs each.
DD Phil
Awesome guys!

Most importantly it looks like you're having fun too! smile.gifsmile.gif

Phil
m0n
of course we are! biggrin.gif
DD Phil
QUOTE (pigphama @ Feb 2 2006, 06:37 PM) *
At this stage un-tested but it should be able to be set for 2000 rpm. We already have 8x2.2v forklift batteries in the back.

We plan on putting 3x10mm laminated glass in the front screens and side door windows.

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The only problem is that you'll need 10-20hp just to turn the alternators at full load.

Will the engine be capable of this at 2000rpm? This is why I dropped the alternator idea on little engines,

Phil
m0n
got nos? biggrin.gif
DD Phil
QUOTE (m0n @ Feb 3 2006, 06:58 PM) *
got nos? biggrin.gif


Ha-ha, we thought about that too, very hard to do over 30sec and maintain 2000rpm. smile.gifsmile.gifsmile.gif

Phil
gros16
could u use revlimiter? that way it will hold at 2000rpm
Jnr
we'ver got a few options up our selve. just hav to see wat happens first
Boxie
QUOTE (pigphama @ Feb 2 2006, 04:54 PM) *
Here is some more of our handywork.

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First pic is Mon chiseling out some of the concrete in the roof cavity so I can complete the front screen frame. Second is me the old fart pushing concrete into the floor cavities and the last one is the finished doors after dirtykia filled them with, you guessed it, MORE CONCRETE. By the way the doors weighed after setting 55 kgs each.


You should have posted the one where m0n was humping the piglet =)

55kgs a peice for the doors is pretty damn good as well, I was expecting them to be heavier than that!
DD Phil
QUOTE (DD Phil @ Feb 3 2006, 08:36 AM) *
The only problem is that you'll need 10-20hp just to turn the alternators at full load.

Will the engine be capable of this at 2000rpm? This is why I dropped the alternator idea on little engines,

Phil


You need power to make POWER.

You can't make enough power under 2000rpm from a little engine to run that many alternators.

They may be good for charging between runs, but that's it.

Phil
swanny
Bet you can wink.gif
Get a small supercharger setup, and that would help you make the neccesary power.
Failing that, get a small turbocharger setup (e.g. a turbo from a suzuki cappucino or any other similar kei class turbocharged car), and then get a Gizmo launch control unit. This acts as a rev limiter, and also acts as an anti lag, as it cuts ignition spark rather than fuel. With fuel still going through the engine, the engine can make boost whilst revving, and on such a small turbocharger, youd be spooling it up extremely quickly even on a 1.3 - 1.5L engine.
With a few pounds of boost down low, I rekon you could comfortably be putting out sufficient power to drive the alternators wink.gif


Luke
Shieldsy
hahaha suonds like a good idea there Luke.
mmm how much easier would battery's have been tho.. really..
m0n
But how plain would more batteries be! Alternators all the way! smile.gif
VL Commy
next question is tho, what alternators are you using? no point using pissy lil 45A slts
tuneman
yeah! step up man' get somthing with some balls! biggrin.gif

how come it looks like your building that thing at the beach??
pigphama
QUOTE (tuneman @ Feb 18 2006, 07:39 PM) *
yeah! step up man' get somthing with some balls! biggrin.gif

how come it looks like your building that thing at the beach??

I'm waiting for the tide to come in and then I will have beach front property, mind you I need more global warming to complete this story.

QUOTE (VL Commy @ Feb 17 2006, 08:22 AM) *
next question is tho, what alternators are you using? no point using pissy lil 45A slts

Using Alts from XF Falcon's onwards.
pigphama
QUOTE (DD Phil @ Feb 3 2006, 06:36 AM) *
The only problem is that you'll need 10-20hp just to turn the alternators at full load.

Will the engine be capable of this at 2000rpm? This is why I dropped the alternator idea on little engines,

Phil

We have 4 Alts running @ 80 amps charge each @ 17.19 volts at approx 1500 r.p.m. More testing to come!
Narchi
I should rock up and u can take pics of me watching u guys work coz i dun wanna get my hands dirty lol.

But a good ole turbo charged piglet. That would be a sight. with some anti lag and flames coming out the back end. MMMM rice it up. then u just need new paint job and rims. its already lowered enough lol. And then u got the fully sick system.
but u reckon its goin to be ready for march????
DD Phil
Cool, so it spins all four. excellent! smile.gif

Phil
pigphama
QUOTE (Narchi @ Feb 20 2006, 07:25 AM) *
I should rock up and u can take pics of me watching u guys work coz i dun wanna get my hands dirty lol.

But a good ole turbo charged piglet. That would be a sight. with some anti lag and flames coming out the back end. MMMM rice it up. then u just need new paint job and rims. its already lowered enough lol. And then u got the fully sick system.
but u reckon its goin to be ready for march????

We are aiming for the end of July @ Cabin to roll the beast out for it's rebuild debut. Plenty of time to trick it up and get it right.

QUOTE (DD Phil @ Feb 20 2006, 08:01 AM) *
Cool, so it spins all four. excellent! smile.gif

Phil

It actually does spin all six but we had a connection issue with two, all produce voltage. this will give us 6 x 70 amps current giving us approx 420 amps of current flow to assist the 8 x 2.2 battery packs.
DD Phil
It's much easier to get 420A from batteries!

But it's very cool and great for charging! smile.gif

Phil
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