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Siksys
i just got finished talking with mates and they gave me a list of subwoofers that are spl woofers


cadence
crossfire
memphis
digital design
audiobarn
mtx
treo
jl audio
jbl
rockford

they also told me to work out what class i want to run

i am not sure yet that would be related to how much money i have - is this correct???

i am going to see a mazda 323 on tuesday it should be ok, the money i save on that i will put towards the other money of the db stuff

the guy wants $3000 for the car so i should have about 15 to 17 grand to spend for the stereo and installation
Marc
Is there an actual question here? I don't get it.
BA55UP
with about 15 - 17K i think you should still stick to street classes,

i think you would suit street C very well, you have enough cash to get 3 high end 15" subs and i would say about 4 amps, plus you would need a new battery/alternator i think and then the wireing you would need about 6 runs of very very thick cable.

that would equal to something like $2000 per sub (2k x 3), about $2000 per amp (2k x 4), and about $1000 - $2000 (for battery wireing fuses etc etc...) but again this is VERY loose estimations (adds up to be about 16k) as you still need to work out what brands and size of power we are talking

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DD Phil
What model 323?

Get a station wagon if possible.

If you can't get a wagon, at least get a 5 door, as the front doors are shorter than that of a 3-door, making the cabin smaller, and importantly distance from woofer to mike shorter, raising the note.

The higher the note, the more power you can put into the woofers, and the less excursion required.

For that budget, I'd hit Street Max 3-4, spend like so:

Termlab - $1000-1500 - or arrange a lot of use of one
4 15-18" woofers $5000-9000
4 Huge amps $8000-10000
2 massive batteries $1000
40m 70sqmm cable $500
6 sheets 32mm MDF $400

Done and Done! go have fun!

Street Max limits the batteries, which keeps the weight down. This car oculd remain registered and driveable, which means you can do more shows. Once you go the tow-truck route, it gets very expensive to attend many shows, especially far from home.

Phil
BA55UP
yay it looks like i got my estimates pretty close hehe i am getting better at this biggrin.gif

also dont forget your gonna need a headunit, i reccomend an alpine CDA-9851 or a 9815 smile.gif
DD Phil
I know that some Alpines don't like the dB Jams disc, I think this has been rectified now, but just make sure before purchase.

All you really need on a head unit is PAUSE.

Phil
gros16
also ripped has lot of gear for sale. 20 batts and 8amps he might even havea 9915 or 2 for sale
ID say DDphil is pretty colse don't forget install cost unless u are going to do it ya self in taht case uw ant some $$$ for beer to confince ya mates to help.
also sound deadening, concrete, fibeglass, wsindow reinforcing

Also i certinlly get term lab but u also need a laptop can u run it on palm piolet?

what class car u going for?
Michae1
QUOTE (DD Phil @ Feb 12 2006, 08:59 AM) *
What model 323?

Get a station wagon if possible.

If you can't get a wagon, at least get a 5 door, as the front doors are shorter than that of a 3-door, making the cabin smaller, and importantly distance from woofer to mike shorter, raising the note.

The higher the note, the more power you can put into the woofers, and the less excursion required.

For that budget, I'd hit Street Max 3-4, spend like so:

Termlab - $1000-1500 - or arrange a lot of use of one

4 15-18" woofers $5000-9000
4 Huge amps $8000-10000
2 massive batteries $1000
40m 70sqmm cable $500
6 sheets 32mm MDF $400

Done and Done! go have fun!

Street Max limits the batteries, which keeps the weight down. This car oculd remain registered and driveable, which means you can do more shows. Once you go the tow-truck route, it gets very expensive to attend many shows, especially far from home.

Phil


That is some of the best advice ANYONE can give someone looking to get serious about SPL.

Termlabs are an invaluable piece of equipment.
ripped
i am selling australia's loudest car and all the gear that was used in it. if you want gear that you know will work, send me a pm and we'll work out what you need...

i would go SS3-4 with that budget. even if you don't get the maximum 16 amps you're allowed, you'll still be louder then street max. it requires power to make power, batteries are important...
fish-man
QUOTE (ripped @ Feb 13 2006, 10:46 AM) *
i am selling australia's loudest car and all the gear that was used in it. if you want gear that you know will work, send me a pm and we'll work out what you need...

i would go SS3-4 with that budget. even if you don't get the maximum 16 amps you're allowed, you'll still be louder then street max. it requires power to make power, batteries are important...

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pm sent ripped
Does it come with rego and a road worthy certificate? I will buy it if it does.... I also want to know if it's auto? Mum said to wait till i learn how to drive before I get manual.
Trev
Michae1
QUOTE (fish-man @ Feb 13 2006, 09:15 PM) *
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pm sent ripped
Does it come with rego and a road worthy certificate? I will buy it if it does.... I also want to know if it's auto? Mum said to wait till i learn how to drive before I get manual.
Trev



Hahahahahaha. laugh.gif laugh.gif

That wagon has like a 3lt fuel tank......in the engine bay. laugh.gif

Wouldn't pass even the dodgiest of roadworthies.

But I think it is an Auto tongue.gif
Siksys
this car is use less its only got a 3lt petrol tank

i could not do laps up chapel street

forget it mate

or maybe i can put on it a drop tank
Siksys
i was being told that the memphis subs are better than the dd subs is this true
Michae1
Realistiscally there is no BEST sub.

Every application has woofers that are more suited to it.

Every competitor that has gotten stupidly loud in the past, could do it with whatever brand they use, because they work their a$$es off to get results.
Sigmeister
There is a nice setup for sale in the For Sale section. Would be great to get you started.
Soundstream Thread
If you are unfamiliar with Soundstream, PM StreetSoundz...He'll tell you how good they are biggrin.gif
Siksys
i went to see a mate at jb and we started talkin about spl and he recomended me the cadance wild beast 15inches woofers. he swears by them and he says they will do the spls easy i ahve herd the cadnce van and i was impressed.

he said he ca get the stock straigh away and sugested 2 too 4 15 inche subs he also told me i should look at the big cadence amps or kickers

whats every ones opinuon on this or should i stick with dd subs

let me know i want to buy this stuff soon

and what about wires are airpro good they seem cheep alot of my mates have stinger
Stone
DD. Aerpro is fine.
DD Phil
Aeropro stuff will do the job fine, it may not be as adaptable or pretty as Stinger or Street Wires, but look at the price!

I like AXIS gear too, it's cheap and good. www.audioxtra.com.au

For power cable you can't beat welding cable, I pay under $10/m for 50sqmm.

Phil
DB JAY
QUOTE (Siksys @ Feb 16 2006, 11:50 PM) *
i went to see a mate at jb and we started talkin about spl and he recomended me the cadance wild beast 15inches woofers. he swears by them and he says they will do the spls easy i ahve herd the cadnce van and i was impressed.

he said he ca get the stock straigh away and sugested 2 too 4 15 inche subs he also told me i should look at the big cadence amps or kickers

whats every ones opinuon on this or should i stick with dd subs

let me know i want to buy this stuff soon

and what about wires are airpro good they seem cheep alot of my mates have stinger

Cadence????? the cadence van is NOT an SPL vehicle. it's a showroom on wheels. alot of the JB staff recomend that brand. (let me guess was it JB Dandenong or Eastland?) come to the DB event this week at traralgon and see what others are doing. this will be a good sart to have a feel of DB drag racing. also you have to work out which class you want to enter to see which size woofers you can use and the quantity you can have.
GOOD LUCK biggrin.gif
xplod_au
why would ya go for a big blown out budget like that for specially when ya havent run in SPL before, by the sounds of it.

tis just nuts in my opinion. but then again if your not building or installing it yourself then ya will spend heaps on that.

and if that is the case i say learn more about SPL and do the installs yaself. its more rewarding.

but good luck with it all just remember to, if you go spending that much money on ur system how will ya feel when guys out there have spent not even half that amount and and pull much bigger numbers then you.

thats why i say learn more about it before juming in at the big end with us all.

thats just my opinion dont hate me for it
Warboat
QUOTE (Siksys @ Feb 16 2006, 11:50 PM) *
i went to see a mate at jb and we started talkin about spl and he recomended me the cadance wild beast 15inches woofers. he swears by them and he says they will do the spls easy i ahve herd the cadnce van and i was impressed.

he said he ca get the stock straigh away and sugested 2 too 4 15 inche subs he also told me i should look at the big cadence amps or kickers

whats every ones opinuon on this or should i stick with dd subs

let me know i want to buy this stuff soon

and what about wires are airpro good they seem cheep alot of my mates have stinger


Dude, trying to win SPL with Cadence Wild Beasts and Cadence amps is like trying to beat a Top Fueler down the quater mile with a stock SS Commodore.
DB JAY
QUOTE (Warboat @ Feb 17 2006, 05:06 AM) *
Dude, trying to win SPL with Cadence Wild Beasts and Cadence amps is like trying to beat a Top Fueler down the quater mile with a stock SS Commodore.

at least someone agree with me.
And beautifully put Warboat biggrin.gif
Siksys
hey guys i did not make it too the spl show in tarlagon on saturday i could not get a lift

and i am not shore if i will be doing up a db car, this is too confusing my friends are teling me to do up my skylines inside and just a loud system

maybe i should go sound quality ????
cyrax83
u dont know how to drive but your spending 17k on a spl system ?

by the sounds of it, perhaps you should spend more on a better car and 3 or 4k on a SQ system. SQ Systems go quite hard too if you get some good components. and put the rest of your cash towards car repairs when u crash it.
5kw's of BASS please
5 x pioneer premier 5000wMAX 15"woofers wink.gif Done deal!


Remove all speakers exept front splits...

and that would do it!

5 x pioneer premier 5000wMAX 15"woofers wink.gif Done deal!


Remove all speakers exept front splits...

and that would do it!
Stone
Or you could just use the Pioneer TS-W5000SPL Australian version with Pioneer on the cone rather than Premier.

Oh, and they're 12's, not 15's.
Narchi
Mate few things.

1. get a manual licence. So many ppl get auto then never bother again about manual till they get a job that requires one. Do it right first.
2. Go to a car stereo event and see how sq and spl are run. See what the guys are doing before you go spending big dollars on a sound system.
3. Stop listening to mates as some ppl like putting money into motors and looks others spend money on phat bass. only reason i say this is i own a wrx sti and i get so much crap i spent money on the stereo rather than the motor.
4. Find a car that u want. Got a fair bit of money. Nothing wrong with buying a system worth 5k with upgrading in future in mind. Cars are costly to run and keep running. So keep money aside for that aswell.
5. Try using specialist car audio stores. They know wat they are talking about most of the time so ull get fairly good advice. Beware of store bias. Remember salesman will try sell what gear they have. I dunno which stores are good in vic but hopefully some1 from vic will help ya there. Better to talk to a salesman who loves car stereos then to a salesman who wants to make money.
Just my 2 cents but i felt it was worth mentioning it.
Shreknos
sq is no easier to win than spl... it takes just as much time tuning if not more, let alone getting all your gear work together and correctly placing ur speakers etc... one way or another, u need to research... all sorts of stuff from the staging to the imaging to the tonal accuracy, even 4000 dollar speakers off a great amp can sound crap with a bad tune... stop looking for the easy way out, if u want to be great wether it be at spl or sq, do a google search and learn, becaude sq is definitely not the easy way out...
DB JAY
QUOTE (Narchi @ Feb 19 2006, 01:58 AM) *
Mate few things.

1. get a manual licence. So many ppl get auto then never bother again about manual till they get a job that requires one. Do it right first.
2. Go to a car stereo event and see how sq and spl are run. See what the guys are doing before you go spending big dollars on a sound system.
3. Stop listening to mates as some ppl like putting money into motors and looks others spend money on phat bass. only reason i say this is i own a wrx sti and i get so much crap i spent money on the stereo rather than the motor.
4. Find a car that u want. Got a fair bit of money. Nothing wrong with buying a system worth 5k with upgrading in future in mind. Cars are costly to run and keep running. So keep money aside for that aswell.
5. Try using specialist car audio stores. They know wat they are talking about most of the time so ull get fairly good advice. Beware of store bias. Remember salesman will try sell what gear they have. I dunno which stores are good in vic but hopefully some1 from vic will help ya there. Better to talk to a salesman who loves car stereos then to a salesman who wants to make money.
Just my 2 cents but i felt it was worth mentioning it.

i could not put that in a better way. that advise from my experience is worth more than 2 cents. it could save you $$$ in the long run. Siksys if you really want to run in the lanes you meet alot of regular faces and learn heaps on the way. that's how i did it biggrin.gif
NOTE: if this guys is willing to give DB Drag Racing a go let's encourage him and help him instead of taking the piss out of him in the forums. the more people that enter the better for all!!!!!!!

Now that's my 2 cents worth smile.gif
Siksys
QUOTE (cyrax83 @ Feb 19 2006, 03:17 AM) *
u dont know how to drive but your spending 17k on a spl system ?

by the sounds of it, perhaps you should spend more on a better car and 3 or 4k on a SQ system. SQ Systems go quite hard too if you get some good components. and put the rest of your cash towards car repairs when u crash it.



Mate i will take you on any day on the track, i have never lost my gts

you should keep your big mouth shut, you want to see driving i will see you at calder
Shreknos
QUOTE
Mate i will take you on any day on the track, i have never lost my gts

you should keep your big mouth shut, you want to see driving i will see you at calder


this is why everyone is taking the piss mate... he hasnt had his happy tabs.. lol
killaklown
do u even realise how ridiculous people think u are, he is pointing out the obvious fact that u cant get to the comp because nobody could pick u up, maybe u should be able to drive yourself before u even think about your car stereo.

Secondly do you even realise how much u contradict yourself, all of a sudden you have a GTS as all seventeen year olds do of course and your also looking at a 323 :S wtf???

And thirdly I dont know why anybody bothers to reply to any of your bullcrap when you are so quick to jump out an abuse people, 99% of the people on this forum know a f***load more than u obviously do and anytime somebody says something u dont like your conan the keyboard warrior. FFS either listen to watt the members on here have to say or dont bother asking for thier input im sure everybody has more important things to do than waste thier time.

*flame suit on*
Marc
Siksys is no longer with us.
Stone
wub.gif you, Marc tongue.gif
Liquidity
How unfortunate. I was about to send him a nice big article detailing why horn loaded enclosures rock, and urging him to enlighten the rest of the forum.

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Alpine State of Mind
man siksys was hilarious...i say bring him back as the official CAA forum clown!!!
brady123
QUOTE (rnor5928 @ Feb 21 2006, 07:47 PM) *
bring him back as the official CAA forum clown!!!
We have enough of them already. Muhuhaha. smile.gif
AndrewK
Brady takes over siksys as the forum clown tongue.gif
brady123
QUOTE (AndrewK @ Feb 21 2006, 11:56 PM) *
Brady takes over siksys as the forum clown tongue.gif
Haha rude...Dont make me come over there! tongue.gif
blanketman
he might kick one of your heads in
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