I did too, and I f**ken hate it. But then again, I'm just a sook

I've seen home videos of devil worshippers with ankle-length *dry* grass skirts dancing in flames and hot coals for minutes at a time, not getting burnt and their skirts not catching on fire...you can't tell me that their isn't something supernatural going on there!

You have to believe in aliens. When you look at how many stars are in the sky (and they're just the close ones we can see) and think that each one of those has a crapload of planets orbiting it it's an almost certainty that life other than that on this planet exists. Whether they're green and have the technology or desire to fly here and anal probe us is another thing

If I was going to believe in god it'd be a stargate type approach where 'god' is one of the above mentioned aliens as his powers were his superior technology.

you can buy anti-flame materials that you coat over stuff to stop them from catching fire. just talk to any stunt man and ask him what the **** he puts on his face before running around in a ball of flames is.

I've "felt" spirits before, and had quite a few "paranormal" experiences which aren't really abotu ghosts.

the spirits i've felt have made me light headded and dizzy, usually in old musty smelling buildings,

one of which i felt in a specfic corner of my mate's kitchen. One of his mates explained having the exact same experience in the same spot (he was telling me of his experience before i mentioned mine)

go figure.

Totally agree with mr_bob and the spirits.

There are 'spirits' that have left me feeling rather lightheaded and left me with a dizzy sensatioin. I then woke up the next morning with a sore head, a vague recollection of what had happened and no bloody idea where i am.

Leaking gas mains

I'll put my story out there for you all to bag **** out of it if you so please.....

I am a beleiver in things super natural but I am speaking from a very holistic family where dad swears he dreams stuff before it happens and I do the same a lot of the time which is more then freaky when it happens every two or three weeks. Point and case was I have not seen a mate for 6 mths as he moved to NZ spent all night dreaming about seeing him and he shows up on the doorstep the next day with no prior warning just to suprise me. Freaky $hit Number One.

My Aunty who is a very big beleiver in all this, went all John Edward on me in the lounge room one afternoon enjoying the footy. Late in the 3rd Quarter the Lions are up by about 60 points and she stops and tells me that there was a very short and kind looking old lady sitting on my back deck wanting to speak with me. I never had grandparents they all passed away before I was born and I ended up with adopted grandparents that were freinds of family who filled the role for us. Dawn was my "grandma's" name who had passed away about 3 weeks prior to my aunty visiting (never met each other mind you).

Dawn was about 4 foot 6 and the most textbook looking lovely old lady you could lay eyes on. Have pictures if need be to prove it. She had a fetish with colour coding her pegs as she hung out the washing (blue side of the clothes line, red side of the clothes line etc) that was a personal joke between her and mum (long story relevant at the end I promise).

Aunty then told me that this certain old lady was happy to see us at her funeral (travelled 14 hours by car for the funeral with mum, stayed 12 hours at destination and returned home) and that I had to take care of mum from now on. End of conversation.

Aunty then has another encounter with the little old sweet lady when she is out walking the next day with Mum near the beach. Message is along the lines of much the same as mine that it was great we made it to her funeral and that she could always trust Gordon to look after her and that she would visit her regularly. Now my aunty is no fruit cake, drives a nice AC Cobra Replica, enjoys a beer and a laugh etc etc. Not a weirdo by far but has this freaky **** going down.

The same trip my aunty tells us of a Maori spirit that was wandering around the backyard at random throughout the day. We have a rather large body of water in our backyard that supplies our Plant Nursery with water and live in Tanawha (The Maori word for Water Monster). Freaky $hit Number Two.

Had a "shuffler" in my house as an adolescent teen (whom apparently attract spirits a lot). Shuffling noises constantly in my bedroom when dark and something playing with my door knob. Turn on light and noise stops. Turn lights off and noise starts. This went on for about 3 months and I thought I was starting to get a little cuckoo so went and got the sister and the mother to confirm for me by writing down what they thought they heard after a night in my room and all thougths were the same about the carpet being walked or shuffled over (blunt scraping noise on carpet like dragging your feet on carpet) and a rattley door knob. Freaky Number THREE.

Freaky Number FOUR was when freinds of mums that are into this Reiki stuff also came to visit when we were in our old house (the same place that the Shuffler visited at night) and they made comment on walking in to my room about a playful spirit that appeared to be chained to something on the ground in my room and couldn't get out.

Freaky Number Five was when the same people came to our new house and commented on the Maori man wandering about our Dam in the backyard and the short lady who liked to stand by the clothes line.

[ September 30, 2003, 15:16: Message edited by: Slappin Rex ]

well i have seen a ghost. it lived in my friends car. i borrowed his car one day, looked in tha mirror, when i looked back he was gone.....

one day i was with my mate, and he said to me 'hey....have u ever seen anything wierd in my car' and i was like.......'errrrrrrrr...like what?'

'well i kinda see this guy in tha mirror sometimes'

and i freaked..... we then both described him...

that car got ass ended and crushed about 12 months later. I hope he 'survived' or moved on whatever ghosts do. we always used to talk to him, and tell him to move over when someone was jumping in the car.

another friend had a few ghost stories, which i couldnt be bothered telling.

my mum saw her father a few times (he died when i was young)

her sister saw someone...grandmother maybe? dont remember, that was when she was like 15...

Ghosts are real. It's either you have seen one or u havnt. Most ppl wont believe ya till they see one.

Incidently, i hate the ppl that fake ouji *sp* boards cause i beleive they work, and they make a joke of it - i believe they work and wont try them for that reason, u gotta know too much to do it safely.

ohhh dont get me started
hahaha
me an my mate have prolly the most wild imaginations ever... possibly we've seen ghosts, but really, i highly doubt it, but i'll believe until im proven otherwise... same with ufos but im not going to get started with my story... *strolls away*

Ive had weird experiences where ive woken up from sleeping and i can see things moving around my room but i cant talk or move

It freaks me out at times but i know it aint real.

Also im a sleep walker ive slept over mates houses and theyve caught me wandering around looking for smeone or something.

Once i went out the front with only a pair of undies on then i woke up and i realised where i was.

i put it too i have an overactive imagination or something.

Also sometime ill be sitting thinking of something say a car i havnt seen for ages and a few minutes later ittl drive past

Also i can sort of feel when ive won a comp or something i feel a feeling its hard to explain but i know ive won.

[ October 01, 2003, 08:15: Message edited by: Rolling Thunder ]

I have had a few weirdo experiences in my time.
But Gordo, you are a nutter!

I Can't help it if I get invaded by the ghosts of christmas past...

That's actually a medical condition called atonia. Normally when you dream (REM sleep)you are paralysed and this stops you acting out what you're dreaming (sleep walking is a disorder of this process)Atonia is the paralysis normally experience in REM sleep extending into the waking stages of sleep. Your mind is awake but your body is still asleep. The brain waves as you are drifing off to sleep/waking up and when you're dreaming are very similar. Often you'll start to wake up but still be paralysed and then go back into REM sleep while still semi concious and dream of being paralysed, trapped, attacked, pinned down or something like that. People often report a weight on their chest as part of the paralysis and their minds often fabricate the image of a person (ghost) holding them down. We all know how messed up and illogical dreams can be. When they're superimposed with a real event ( being 'awake' in your bed) it can be scary and if you're inclined to believe in ghosts or the paranormal then that's what your mind will generate.

In case you're wondering, I work in a sleep disorders laboratory where we monitor brain waves and all sorts of other cool stuff

That's pretty Funky. I never knew I was paralysed when I slept. I don't think I am comfortable with that idea.

get used to it
you'd be less comfortable if you weren't. You'd rarely wake up in your bed if you werent paralysed and you'd injure yourself in the process.

Oh Just bloody Great

Is there anything to fix this "Medical Condition"

That would explain why when i was little id scream my head off when id wake up then id forget why i was screaming

Now im used too it though so i just blink my eyes or rub them or turn on a light and it goes away.

But i have on a fair few occasions woken up in place im not supposed to be.

EG once i woke up yelling at me mate saying "Move its gonna land on u and squash u!!" LOL

If thats the case i dont trust me self sleeping over a house with nice chikys who knows where i might end up

If you can rub your eyes or turn on a light then you're not really paralysed. As you say you can blink or try wiggling a toe or finger to snap you out of it.
It sounds like you're experiencing both ends of the spectrum - both being paralysed when you're supposed to be awake and being and unparalysed when you're asleep. There's not alot you can do, unless you've got narcolepsy or soemthing where you just drop off to sleep out of the blue.

i dont trust me self sleeping over a house with nice chikys who knows where i might end up
ooooow, how did that get in there. Sorry, it's this condition I have...

Why is it that if something happens to someone that they can't explain, it's automatically "ghosts" or "spirits" or some divine power that is merely a figment of your imagination?

Oh well ive learned to live with it.

Might have to just hand cuff meself to the bed so i dont go wandering

hey pplz

i deff belive in sprits ect, ect. have had a few weird encounters. anyways. ill tell of the one that stands out to me.

my uncle lives in woop woop, its a town called rupanyip or sum damm cr@p. so anyways my grans wants to visit him, so being the nice guy i am i offer to drive her up. my gran owns a house next door to my uncles, it bloody old and she bought it wen the previous owner died. so we were goin to stay there. that night i must of had a crap load off caffene of sumthin i ended up goin to bed really late. im lying in bed and i can hear this really faint mumbleing noise, it didnt bother me that much. the thing that bothered me, was this hardcore feeling off being not wanted in the room. i do alot of meditation with marital arts, and the feeling i had was so overwhelming i turned on the light, thought i was being stupid and decided to read ralph for a while, did that, turned off the light. 2 mins later same **** but louder and stronger. i bite my lip turn on the light and read 4 a while again. now this time i turn off my light, the noise starts again. im lying there concentrating on this noise and all of a sudden at the end of my bed it feels like sumone grabs my foot. i **** my pants, grad my blanket and slept in the lounge. next day i tell my uncle expecting him to laugh, he tells me the guy my gran got the house off carked it in the bloody place, in his bedroom. which was the room i was in. same bloody bed furniture ect. i didt go back. sleept at my uncles.

there my story sorry for the long read, im sure you all think i was hitting the wacky tobacy but i know wat i felt and it scared the crap outt me.
peace

Wow, I didn't know that atonia was a medical condition, it happens to me all the time, but somehow I managed to learn to shake it off whenever it happens.

At my sisters engagement party she was getting a photo taking with her husbands parents and in the photo turned out a "spirit" (dont really believe in ghost)
But it was really freaky and the photo is well put away, It is a white figure floating above them and you can cleary see it and its no **** up in the film or someones reflection!
Is really spokie but ive only seen it once and dont wanna see it again! My sister believes it was a spirit or angels looking above them (mind you she got a divorse with him 5 years later) LoL


[ October 05, 2003, 09:34: Message edited by: N.O.S Boy ]

There is some freaky stuff going down in this thread.

I know sometimes I will have bad feeling about stuff, but I usually put it out of my head because i think i am being stupid, I remember when I was 13 Dad was killed in a huge truck accident at the Caloundra Turn-Off on the highway. I remember having this feeling something bad was going to happen the week before. I didnt think anything of it, but on the day of his accident i got up and said good-bye - a rarety since he left at arond 5am.

The bridge where it happen has heaps of freaky **** going on as well - the coucils mowers dont work there...

freaky **** huh...

Cheers
Craig

Man thats real sad