obesesimon
Mar 24 2006, 10:47 AM
Electron flow distrubition,buss bars and copper cable,real flash.
laser alignment and special jigs for the splits,blue tac and my ears to make thoes pods in the pics.
FragLed ,cheap leds and a jiffy box for that special effect.
SX QuantumXorb,cheap coventrys black underbody sound deadner with lead filings added.costs $50 per 20 litres sells for about $25 per litre.
Xploflow,it's a port .A tube in a box not complicated.The different tuning is achieved buy a extra port in the box blocked off for music which when uncovered tunes the box higher.
MYOT securing,screws or bolts to the lay man or has a new bolt system been invented in wa..
sorry if I seem a little petty about this but I copped so much abuse on forums from james because I started the install in this car and left sxa part way through the install .
The real reason for posting this is I have been enjoying the much higher quality of incar mag since mik rigney took over as editor.He is a quality installer who should not be putting this crap in a mag of this quality .Please put the info worthy of the vehicle in the mag not a lot of self promotion for sxa.
James car looks good in the article and it deserves a article in the mag just don't print a load of rubbish..
stazed
Mar 24 2006, 11:27 AM
WITH GRAMMAR:I would just like to clarify some "information" in the article regarding Numb's Tiburon which you'll find in Incar Magazine.
Electron flow distribution, buss bars and copper cable - real flash.
Laser alignment and special jigs for the splits - more like blue tac and my ears to make those pods in the pics.
FragLed - actually some cheap leds and a jiffy box for that special effect.
SX QuantumXorb - nope, cheap Coventrys black underbody sound deadner with lead filings added. It costs $50 per 20 litres, and sells for about $25 per litre.
Xploflow - it's a port. A tube in a box... not complicated. The different tuning is achieved by an extra port in the box that is blocked off for music, which when uncovered tunes the box higher.
MYOT securing - it's called screws and bolts by a layman, or has a new bolt system been invented in WA..?
Sorry if I seem a little petty about this, but I copped so much abuse on the forums from James (Numb) because I started the install in this car and left Sounds Explosive Audio (SXA) part way through the install.
The real reason for posting this is that I have been enjoying the much higher quality of Incar mag since Mick Rigney took over as editor. He is a quality installer who should not be putting this crap in a mag of this quality. Please put the info worthy of the vehicle in the mag, not a lot of self promotion for SXA.
James' car looks good in the article and it deserves an article in the mag, just don't print a load of rubbish..
trism
Mar 24 2006, 12:34 PM
phew...thanks stazed, i read the first post and had nfi what was going on.
MattyP
Mar 24 2006, 02:11 PM
I couldn't absorb one bit of that article, was just too much for me unfortunately.
ReMiX
Mar 24 2006, 03:27 PM
bahahaha
SXA are doin well out of that article.. I want some SX QuantumXorb .. It must be better than Dynamat !
HISPL
Mar 24 2006, 03:37 PM
I actually started to laugh when I was explained over the phone what some of these "wanky" terms for things meant.
There is some real bullcrap in that article, the finish on the install looks good but a lot of the install was done by someone who no longer is invloved with Sounds Xplosive.
I guess Sounds Xplosive doesn't have the same ammount of room for staff now that it has moved back to Mick's home workshop, the old workshop had enough space for a few installers to be working at any one time.
miss626
Mar 24 2006, 04:22 PM
i agree - wank article. nothing more to say.
Jnr
Mar 25 2006, 03:21 AM
here is a quote from perth wrx forums with him defending him self
"Quote
Ok for the record:
1) i Sell Subarus, That was my reason for joining. I drive subaru's full time (Hyundai is purely an car audio toy car). Thought I could share my love of Subarus with like minded people.
2) I never stole money, goods etc. This sh*t went on for a long time and quite frankly im sick of it. I am thousands of dollars behind because i have done the right thing by people who participated in a group buy that went bad.
3) The car was originally worked on by Simon Kerr who is an ex employee of SX Audio. The vehicle was completely rebuilt from scratch due to so many fundamental errors, problems and faults with the foundations of the system after it left from when Simon worked on it. It went back in and Michael Fragomeni worked on the entire car from base up to get it right. There are only 3 people who know the car from foundation up and none of the 3 are commenting on the vehicle on this forum apart from me.
4) I made the INCAR magazine because the car is high quality, original, shows alot of inventive techniques and looks crap hot. If people don't like it then i'm sorry, and if my car pushed out a 1997 pulsar hatch from making a magazine, then im also sorry.
5) I'm not defending the car or myself. I joined this forum to speak with like minded people, I went crazy on the audio for the Tiburon cus thats what I like and I posted this on here for the foolish reason of thinking that people might like to put a car to a face to a name. How wrong I must have been......
For those who are curious, check out the pictures and article. It speaks for itself.
For all those others who disrespect the car, me or a bit of pride in a car, tell somebody who cares cus i quite frankly dont.
End Quote"
here is the link to the whole thread but ull have to register to read it:
http://www.perth-wrx.com/vb/showthread.php?p=38869#post38869
m0n
Mar 25 2006, 04:29 AM
funny how when you say you don't like it, he gives you the evils too
obesesimon
Mar 25 2006, 12:05 PM
ok.I wrote this post to critise the way the article was written not the car.
If you read the post, I wrote that the car deserved to be in the mag.
When I left sxa due mainly to being paid $16000 gross for the year,I am 30 years old!
I spoke to james re his install a couple of days after leaving and said it was no where near finished and alot of things needed finishing due to time issues.
I could only have the car for limited time in stages so trying to finish a custom install like that is hard.
things have to go back together not right sometimes.
I said to james that if he could'nt get the system done then I would finish it on my own time to keep him happy.
How could I do any more..
James bagged the hell out of me on other forums due to what sxa told him and I have replied to that.I will say it again the post wasn't aimed at bagging james car it was aimed at the rubbish that was said in the only national car audio mag.
Incar mag as far as I am concerned is about showing off your pride and joy,not shameless plugs for so called special install products that some shops offer.
There are special articles that incar run for that.
I only commented on this car because I have some inside knowledge about the car and shop responsible.
If I knew about other cars with the same stuff written I would comment aswell.
James don't take things personal.....
GottaGetz
Mar 27 2006, 08:54 PM
OK I would like to point out the following facts:
1) The car significantly changed after Simon left SXA, this includes the kick panels, subwoofer box and many other facets. This was due to design faults and a natural progression of what is a mammoth task. Yes, their was some very large faults in the workmanship on the Tiburon however as Simon pointed out a long time ago, The car was not completely finished due to time constraints of both car shows and SXA and I have accepted his explanation a long time ago.
2) As I'm sure you can all imagine, Half way through an install the WORST thing for a car audio system is to change the person doing it, this happened on 3 occasions during the build and as such things were a mess for quite a long time. All has been resolved now and I certainly do not blame any of the previous installers for their personal decisions to leave.
3) Dirty Kia- What I posted on Perth WRX should have stayed there, it is not your business, nor your right to copy and paste my posts from one forum to another.
4) Simon - As I have said to you in the past, I apologise if you took offense to my remarks. I was damn right pissed off at some of the workmanship and it wasnt until you and i spoke that you made me aware it was due to time constraints etc. I accepted this explanation, yes, things could have been done alot better but I think you realise this and you obviously had your own reasons for things not being up to scratch, time being on of the big ones. Thankfully though, SXA has IMO moved on from their days and their quality is better than ever, as is the amount of time they're spending on work to get it right, the first time, perfectly. I know that you may have grievences against SXA, Michael or the whole situation. But when we discussed things at Audiocom that day, I had hoped you would move on. I'm not taking this as a personal attack however as I'm sure you can understand, the car has changed significantly.
To all those people who knock me personally, I have gone out of my way to remedy any wrongs I have been percieved to have done, this can be confirmed via Marc Rushton or his partner Ainslee. As far as im concerned, its damn right pathetic for you to be targetting BlaqJaq or anything to do with me when it has NOTHING to do with you. In other words, mind your own business.
Sure, some of the comments are wanky, but let's face it, look at the general audience of Incar, the editors loved it, as have alot of people who read it. It's the small, educated (or partially educated) Minority who are in this thread or others and disagreeing with the terminology used. At the end of the day though, theirs only one difference between the terms we used and for instance a company calling speakers "Digital", ours was based on truth and facts, sure, they've been upspecced and made sound more 'showy' but really, thats what the editors liked, and it works in our opinion.
I would just love for people to move on from the constant bagging, disrespect and rudeness. I would also love for one day, a person to phone Michael or another employee of SXA and ask a question regarding a car, they'll be more than happy to help you. Or simply ask me at a car show/sound off. It's surely better than keyboard warrioring away on a forum.
Please Mods/Admin, dont delete this. If a thread exists about me or my car that I didnt post, surely I should have the right of reply.
Cheers
James
Marc
Mar 27 2006, 09:55 PM
No James, you have no right of reply as we had an agreement that you would stay away from this site.
Let the record also show that I CANNOT at this stage confirm James has tried to right his previous wrongs. It is in progress, but at this point in time still has not happened.
pigphama
Mar 27 2006, 09:59 PM
QUOTE (GottaGetz @ Mar 27 2006, 06:54 PM)

OK I would like to point out the following facts:
1) The car significantly changed after Simon left SXA, this includes the kick panels, subwoofer box and many other facets. This was due to design faults and a natural progression of what is a mammoth task. Yes, their was some very large faults in the workmanship on the Tiburon however as Simon pointed out a long time ago, The car was not completely finished due to time constraints of both car shows and SXA and I have accepted his explanation a long time ago.
2) As I'm sure you can all imagine, Half way through an install the WORST thing for a car audio system is to change the person doing it, this happened on 3 occasions during the build and as such things were a mess for quite a long time. All has been resolved now and I certainly do not blame any of the previous installers for their personal decisions to leave.
3) Dirty Kia- What I posted on Perth WRX should have stayed there, it is not your business, nor your right to copy and paste my posts from one forum to another.
4) Simon - As I have said to you in the past, I apologise if you took offense to my remarks. I was damn right pissed off at some of the workmanship and it wasnt until you and i spoke that you made me aware it was due to time constraints etc. I accepted this explanation, yes, things could have been done alot better but I think you realise this and you obviously had your own reasons for things not being up to scratch, time being on of the big ones. Thankfully though, SXA has IMO moved on from their days and their quality is better than ever, as is the amount of time they're spending on work to get it right, the first time, perfectly. I know that you may have grievences against SXA, Michael or the whole situation. But when we discussed things at Audiocom that day, I had hoped you would move on. I'm not taking this as a personal attack however as I'm sure you can understand, the car has changed significantly.
To all those people who knock me personally, I have gone out of my way to remedy any wrongs I have been percieved to have done, this can be confirmed via Marc Rushton or his partner Ainslee. As far as im concerned, its damn right pathetic for you to be targetting BlaqJaq or anything to do with me when it has NOTHING to do with you. In other words, mind your own business.
Sure, some of the comments are wanky, but let's face it, look at the general audience of Incar, the editors loved it, as have alot of people who read it. It's the small, educated (or partially educated) Minority who are in this thread or others and disagreeing with the terminology used. At the end of the day though, theirs only one difference between the terms we used and for instance a company calling speakers "Digital", ours was based on truth and facts, sure, they've been upspecced and made sound more 'showy' but really, thats what the editors liked, and it works in our opinion.
I would just love for people to move on from the constant bagging, disrespect and rudeness. I would also love for one day, a person to phone Michael or another employee of SXA and ask a question regarding a car, they'll be more than happy to help you. Or simply ask me at a car show/sound off. It's surely better than keyboard warrioring away on a forum.
Please Mods/Admin, dont delete this. If a thread exists about me or my car that I didnt post, surely I should have the right of reply.
Cheers
James
James,
Thank you for taking the time to explain your side of the story. You have clearly presented your side and have resisted giving negative comments about anybody else. Maybe we can all let this lie and move on.
pigphama
MRS.TEK
Mar 27 2006, 10:08 PM
As far as i am concerned, when the amount due is paid to me "On Time" then i will let it all go. I want these guys to get there money back then to be honest, i couldnt give a stuff about what happens from there. I just hope James moves on and learns from this and betters himself.
Volatile Rob
Mar 28 2006, 10:20 AM
james
my issues with what you said have been voiced to you face to face,and are no way forgiven!
the reason I started the post was that it annoyed me to have what I know is a extensive audio system that deserved to be in the mag ,distracted from buy all the other rubbish written.Yes there is a percentage of readers who understand what is truth and what is speal.and see as I am one of them I felt I had to comment.
Never once did I write a single bad comment about you personally or your car ,if anything the editor of incar should be upset at me for critising his mag.
The fact we have some good and bad history is true,but remember you started the public critism not me,so don't get all upset when it is returned in diluted form..
Ok enough, that is all I am gonna say.I said my peace and am not gonna add as we could go on for days.Been there done that all before..
sorry did'nt realise I was logged under robs name,and I am too lazy to re -write it.
simon.
audible
Mar 29 2006, 11:18 AM
So, what's new here?
ICE magazine has still lost the plot? That's old news. They have been stuffing up articles about cars, components and basically everything that goes into the magazine except for the ads since about 1993. Or was it 1992 when the magazine started?
I haven't bothered picking up a copy to even flick thru for the past 5 or 6 years.
So this Tiberon is a product of frags & simon. Must be good. I well know the feeling of having an article about your own car put into ICE magazine and have it totally stuffed up. I was getting comments about my "100 inch subs" and ICE magazine credited companies who had supposedly worked on my car whom I had never even heard about and I had to look them up in the yellow pages to find out where they where!
Not to mention the crap they wrote about wiring, vibrations and number plates. (issue 12, 1994, pages 79-80)
So don't feel too bad about it. I think it's par for ICE magazine!
DD Phil
Mar 29 2006, 02:04 PM
They're not the only mag to make mistakes.
Rob's "GO APE" Mirage apparently used Alpine DD9917s to win the 2004 dB Drag finals.

Phil
stazed
Mar 29 2006, 02:31 PM
QUOTE (DD Phil @ Mar 29 2006, 03:04 PM)

They're not the only mag to make mistakes.
Rob's "GO APE" Mirage apparently used Alpine DD9917s to win the 2004 dB Drag finals.

Phil
Isn't Digital Designs an offshoot from the development of Alpine's DD Linear series?
Bodyjar
Mar 29 2006, 03:05 PM
I hope that's a joke Stazed

How about INCAR's go at the RED666 Magna not long ago? Clearly the amps in the pics were Epsilon amps, yet they say they were Orion... And an Alpine F#1 Status active crossover? what the...
Fudd
Mar 29 2006, 11:51 PM
yeah incar is wtitten by ppl who think they know about car audio for ppl who think there into car audio... :s
oh hangon i had an artical in there.
ah maybe i do know nothing afterall haha
DD Phil
Mar 30 2006, 06:18 AM
Alpine State of Mind
Mar 31 2006, 11:49 AM
so where can i get some of these alpine DD9917's????? i want to set a record!!!!
ultim8DTM5
Apr 23 2006, 12:58 PM
Like it or not, INCAR is the only dedicated Australian car audio title on the market and we should support it.
I read the article with a raised eyebrow, but then I remembered they do a hell of a lot to support the industry so I turned a blind eye to it.
Try to keep stock of the larger picture people: we've seen too many titles fold in the last few years so take some perspective and applaud them for running a private car as a large feature.
2LOUD2OLD
Apr 23 2006, 07:42 PM
QUOTE (ultim8DTM5 @ Apr 23 2006, 10:58 AM)

Like it or not, INCAR is the only dedicated Australian car audio title on the market and we should support it.
what about car stereo australia??
ultim8DTM5
Apr 23 2006, 09:01 PM
Like I said, the only title on the market...
DD Phil
Apr 23 2006, 09:15 PM
QUOTE (ultim8DTM5 @ Apr 23 2006, 09:01 PM)

Like I said, the only title on the market...
Don't forget Car Stereo Australia does massive head to head testing of gear.
Phil
Pulse-R
Apr 23 2006, 09:58 PM
I can't remember the last time an issue of CSA came out... it's been soooooo long!
bring on the next issue
DD Phil
Apr 23 2006, 10:49 PM
The last one was in December, it's out again soon. It came free with Hot 4s and Street Commodores.
I think they're doing two a year from now on.
Phil
ultim8DTM5
Apr 24 2006, 10:55 PM
Hopefully we will see another issue, however I'm not convinced we will
DD Phil
Apr 25 2006, 12:45 AM
QUOTE (ultim8DTM5 @ Apr 24 2006, 10:55 PM)

Hopefully we will see another issue, however I'm not convinced we will

You're sorely mistaken.
Phil
ultim8DTM5
Apr 25 2006, 12:05 PM
Like I said, I'm not convinced.
DD Phil
Apr 25 2006, 02:31 PM
QUOTE (ultim8DTM5 @ Apr 25 2006, 12:05 PM)

Like I said, I'm not convinced.
We'll we've already booked our ad! LOL
Phil
ultim8DTM5
Apr 25 2006, 05:45 PM
Hahahaha
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