Guys/girls

This is no review, just wanted to share my experience with this product.

I have a Mazda6 which has a pesky all-in-one head unit which I wanted to connect to my Audison LRx2.250 (which feeds an LRx 2S).

Anyway, tried the Stinger LOC.... lots of noise! Could hear the fuel pump starting up, audible noise, muddy bass etc. Tried grounding but to no benefit.
Returned the Stinger, got a refund.

Purchased the NE-7V from the CAA online store and wow, what a difference! Nice clean signal to my amp/sub/fronts.

Would recommend this to anyone going down the LOC route.

Cheers

that's good to know! so we can recommend it with confidence - which i think most people were doing anyway.

interesting how it faired better than the stinger in avoiding noise. were the otherwise installed in EXACTLY the same way and position in the car?

There is a reason we actually sell this low cost Line Convertor I had a requirement for one myself and after purchasing three different brands, and being positive noise was not being induced elsewhere I got my hands on the Navone one. Guess what .... no noise and as great as possible SQ (from an external source).

So I decided to make them available for all .... thanks for the feedback!

They are a great unit. I bought a few of them a while ago, both 2 channel and 4 channel one and found them easy to use and no noise at all.

Definatley worth getting if you need to utilise high level signal and I was pleased to see that CAA shop had them.

The Four Channel Convertors are now available locally too finally.

are the line drivers absolutely necessary when using a LOC?

- Stooge007 out

The Line Drivers aren't necessary at all. The Line Output Convertors have helped hundreds retain their factory integrated head unit and still have the luxury of adding aftermarket amplifiers and upgrading speakers etc.

However, a Navone LOC, coupled with a Line Driver can literally rival some of the best head units on the market for sound quality. The only downside to factory head units (apart from features) is low output voltage. So if you convert to low level (RCA) and boost the voltage output its then on par with putting a good quality CD Tuner in.

These are very good quality units. They are well built and fully adjustable.

probably not quite true: the concern about low voltage from a factory HU. the audio signal from the speakerwire outputs is ALWAYS going to be higher than an RCA output. the very function of the LOC is to drop the voltage down to within normal RCA levels. most LOCs will also have a gain/trim controller to adjust the output signal to something suitable.

eg: HU 'A' may have speakerwire outputs of up to 12V, whilst HU 'B' may only reach 8V; you can adjust the LOC so that the RCA output voltage ends up as 4V with either HU, simply lowering the voltage more with HU 'A'

it's the quality of the internal amp inside the HU that matters. and just cos HU 'A' may have a higher power (voltage) output, doesn't mean the signal is higher quality.

so you're saying a factory Toyota deck could rival an HX-D2, or 7998 etc. with the use of LOC and line driver?

- Stooge007 out

that'd be interesting!

Didnt someone take out an sq comp a while back with a stock landcruiser deck and speakers, using LOCS?

Comparing transport to transport, yes.

In fact, many OEM CD Tuners tend not to have any colorisation on the sound, as opposed to many aftermarket decks doing all sorts of processing, coloring etc.

Feature wise, tuning ability etc, of course the factory unit is not comparable.

Think "mercedes, levinson etc" decks. Nice simple OEM decks with clean "true" output signals. Nice SQ

Marc, while on topic of the online store and its products, any ETA on when you will be stockign the Alpine Ipod adaptors?

I am still waitin on a reply from the PM i sent you a few days ago hehe


Cheers,

Jason

Sorry mate ... I get over 20 PM's a day, and don't often check them for a week or so.

I anticipate stock arriving in the next 14 days at most.

Sorry to dig up an old thread, but the sales product page links to it in the footer.

How does this compare with expensive products like the JL Audio Clean Sweep?

Units like that flatten the frequency output from the factory unit, as most (and all Ford) units have some level of undefeatable EQ to make their factory speakers sound better, and some also have EQ that decreases bass levels as the volume is turned up.

But the Clean Sweep is like 700 or 800 clams, this is 50 for the 4ch one.

If the difference is not 650 bucks worth, then id just as soon buy this, lol.

i've heard nothing of the JL audio model, but the rockford fosgate 3sixty models (of which there are 2) have received excellent feedback in these forums from both users and retailers. one is around $500, the other more like $900, plus installation, etc.

i think these work on a similar principle, flattening the OEM signal. they sound worth it if you can afford it.

so i suppose it depends how fussy you are with your sound, and the budget. if you're only going to spend $1000 on the rest of the system, probably not worth spending $500+ on just the LOC.

Yeah thats what I figured. Also, I am not sure how much EQ there is on a BA XR6 Premium Sound System to start with, in the DSP menu there is an 'off' setting, so I am not sure if that is all the EQ it has or if there is some undefeatable EQ built in as well.

If thats all there is, setting it to 'off' would turn the Clean Sweep into a $600 line out converter lol.

Also, the 3SIXTY is probably for the more serious users, if you have a bluetooth PDA you can set all the levels yourself.

OK after reading this thread, I think I'm going to get myself one of these !! So my question however is how I should run my system.

It is a Renault Clio Sport 172 and the original deck is good as it has stalk control and a 6 stacker. Don't know about the ins and outs i.e. how good the internal amp is etc. but after reading that the stock deck coupled with LOC and line driver is a combo that can rival "competition worthy decks", I am intent on going this route !

Say, if I am going to spend $4-600 on front speakers (brands withheld) and $6-800 on an amp and $3-400 on a sub, is the Navone 2 or 4 ch LOC going to be sufficient for my system, or should I add the line driver as well ? OR is someone going to tell me that if I am going to spend that kinda money on the speakers, amps etc. I should go all out and get a 'decent' deck as well.

I am thinking 2 channels tapped into the front in order to provide fader to the front/rear when I amp up the front speakers and 2 channels tapped to the rear speaker wires (speakers now removed) to provide RCAs for the Sub... or can I do this all with just the 2 ch LOC, and lose fader control I guess...

Any thoughts appreciated !

what brand is the original? it may have RCA preouts or allow for them; eg: blaupunkt HUs feature in many euros, and usually have preouts or a socket to add the preout harness.



well, you're spending a premium on the other components. i would personally either upgrade the HU too, investigate adding preouts, or invest in a rockford fosgate 3sixty. you could justify the latter quite easily for the quality of the other gear; i think just adding a navone LOC will sell it short unless you actually do spend $4-/6-/300 instead of $6-/8-/400.

It's a 'Cabasse' head unit. No pre-outs either.

Thanks for providing me with that '$ threshold' to work with. At least I now know where this LOC unit stands in terms of the price/quality of the other components of the system.

Now for a little more research. Thanks heaps mate !

hey sorry i know this is a bit of a bump, but i was wondering where i could get the Navone Line Level Convertor (2 Ch), Navone Engineering NE-7V and/or if possible when this product is coming back to the mobile electronics store, as it currently is out of stock
once again sorry for posting in an old thread.

Just an update that these will be back in stock after a lengthy wait in approximately 14 days.

http://www.mobileelectronics.com.au/store