I'm considering getting a new car soonish, but I don't know what to get. I currently own a 97 Corolla Seca. Now its no speed machine, its not a bad car, reliable, and fuel efficient. But its just too boring and underpowered now :S

So i'm wanting to get something with more power and more torque. I would like to get a car capable of a 14sec 1/4 it doesn't have to do that stock, but it would need to be able to do that without spending massive amounts of money. I want to move up a bit in terms of size more to a mid size car, something like camry size or so. I also want something a little unique. So that counts out all Falcodores! I don't mind ifi get a common brand i just want a unique car, so i'm not just driving around in the same ol car everone else is (like my rolla, and all the falcodores)

I have considered the Toyota Soarer (only problem that i have found so far is that insurance will be quite high as I'm under 25 (well under 21 for that matter)), another i considered was the Mazda 929, but they are quite slow standard, I'm not sure how hard they are to "get moving"? , another was the Mazda Eunos 800 (V6 2.3L Supercharged) but i think they are slow, but being forced induction they wouldn't be overly hard to get moving I'd imagine, ie a bit more boost )

Please help me...

Mazda/Eunos Cosmo 20B .. Insurance wont be fun, but they go seriously hard and they are very unique!

Or, a Soarer V8 Limited. Lots of fruit for cheap cheap!

try looking at the lexus ls400 in the for sale section. Already setup for car audio and cheap as chips....


Woody

the 800m's are not to slow. the S/C can be a little pricy if you have problems.

i know of a SP version for sale, only 40 of them were relesed, come with better suspention, different rims etc etc (modded in aust around the same time as the rx7 sp came out)

a stagea for sure

or the chaser.

unsure of prices though.


SSS_Hoon

Stagea's are around $25-30k. Have the RB25DET engine (2.5L turbo 6)from the R33 Skylines. Are a wagon though.

Chasers are a bit more, about $27-32 for an auto. Manuals are a bit more again. They do have the 1JZ-GTE (2.5L twin turbo 6, or 2.5L Vvti single turbo 6 in the later models [1998 --> i think]) though.

Neither would be fun to insure for under 25's though

EDIT: Mmmm Chaser





Mmmmm . . . 1JZ



- Stooge007 out

i know of an R31 skyline that will do 10 sec quarters for 23k. looks good and there aint to many cars out there that will be the same. u'll get respect with that car.

otherwise an R31 GTSX (coupe) can be had for anything from 10k+ and will get u the 14sec 1/4. again respect for havin one of those.

Cosmo 20B - aren't rotories a little unreliable?
Soarer V8 Limited - nice, but they are slower than the I6T version aren't they? plus a V8 is going to be bad for insurance and fuel economy isn't it?
lexus ls400 - I love these, big pimping cars but again they aren't that quick are they? (they are big and heavy) and again V8 != cheap insurance, and fuel economy
800M - thats what i was looking at, I can't find anything about how fast the 800M actually is, i think the specs i saw were for the NA version.
stagea - mmm, I dunno these have never really taken my fancy, i got no idea why, maybe because they are wagons and look like a family car (sort of )
Chaser - I'd love one of these, I love my Toyotas, especially ones like the Chaser, but yeah they are still a little expensive (at the higher end of my budget)
R31 - mmm, not really a fan of that old boxy shape, they just look old and don't look sporty :S

get a rexy

haha rexy, cause thats unique.

the rotarys are not unriliable, you just need to look after them (warm up and warm down, always service on time etc)

the 800m never came as a N/A
http://teameunos.com/forums/index.php (down at the moment)

How much would it take to get a 929 "moving", they are only 150Kw standard plus auto plus fairly heavy = fairly slow.

I have a mate (www.raptorsc.com.au) who builds superchargers, so i could get a kit made for pretty much any car, but this would mean the inital purchase price would need to be reduce by about $5000-10000 (depending on whats required)

I also love the PIMP style, (ie big car, even bigger flat chrome mags ) so if i could get something in that style it would be nice (ie leather interior, all the electrics, sunroof, etc)

better suggestion- save the 25K and invest it in realestate..
(you'll thank me in 10 yrs time.)

get a mazda 6 mps.

or just a 626 turbo.

they'll do 14s quarters with a small amount of work.

www.mx6.com
www.ozmazdaclub.com

My mum used to have an 89 626 Turbo. Was an awesome car, facotry velour, sunroof, nice shape and power. Either one of those or the less classy / more sporty looking TX5 Turbo would be spot on. Thats if you can find one with half reasonable kms.

Wow, you want a big pimp performance car that you pay nothing to insure and drinks nothing.

Buy a bike.

It is to me That happens to be the car i wouldnt mind gettin next like in 5 years

Currently Unique: Renault Clio Sport.
Friend of mine did a stock 14.2 Quarter mile in his.

2L N/A @ a scratch over 1Tonne.$20-30K
2002+

I'd prefer to get something a bit bigger than the Clio, the Clio is about the same size as my rolla.

I guess i could forget the fast stock car, and just make sure the car i get has a strong motor and can take enough boost to get it down to the 14sec mark. (I can get my mate to build a kit)

ok go retro. SUBARU RX TURBO. 14 sec std and 4wd. great for pulling vehicles out of the mud too. I have the wagon version.(see sig.)

Well you can buy my car for 15K, it will cost you 8k to supercharge it and you'll have everything you want, and you'll have 2k left over to insure it.

http://www.caraudioaustralia.com/forums/in...showtopic=62729

Mate. You sound like you want a soarer. hands down. Game over.

You can get some damn nice forced induction versions, dirt cheap. Ever sat in a good one? leather interior, power everything. HUGE boot.

Go check one out at least.

ever tried to insure one? get replacement parts for it? trust me they are NOT cheap.

basically any car that looks expensive but is sold cheap is because the parts r expensive.

there are three things in the world for a car. speed looks and reliability you can only ever have 2

amen - unless you are capable of building your self.

isnt it. cheap, fast, reliable you can only choose 2

that makes more sense. looks u can get with other 2, but cheap not so easy.

I'd go for a Z28 IROC Camaro. Something post 1988, with the 5.7L TPI engine.
Fast, Unique, and look good (Well I think they do)

Or perhaps a De Tomasso Pantera.

I'd go for a Z28 IROC Camaro. Something post 1988, with the 5.7L TPI engine.
Fast, Unique, and look good (Well I think they do)


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ok if you dont mind eletrical gremlins ( I used to own a 86) not to mention fuel econony and parts - again. most of the items can be bought from a GM dealer but speciifcs need to come from the USA - NEW. add to the fact that when they do the L-R flip they change a LOT of stuff. some creates dramas some creates water leaks.

if you do look at one - avoid the chain drive ones look for the ones that have a full mirror conversion. chain drive can snap at any time leaving you as a passenger in for the ride of your life...

Personally I wouldn't ever buy a chain drive one, due to hastles a friend had with his Corvette.
Thanks for the tips though.

id still buy my car if i had the money

$22,000 will buy you something like this:



Bet you could get this on the road for less than the asking price, been sitting there for a couple months now...

no one said r34 gt-t ?
its fairly new, parts arent too expensive as theres a fair few floating around and many smackd up ones in japan

insurance is a little higher being an imported turbo.

also s15's are locally sold cars in that price range now.
soarers are going very cheap these days, u can pick up a good one for like 12k.
that one above must have something spectacular to be worth 22k. theres heaps of spare parts for soarers, that shouldnt be an issue.

ur 1/4mile concern will be solved with those 3.

http://www.carsales.com.au/pls/carsales/&#...rch_distance=25

mitsubishi GTO twin turbo...

if your willing to sacrifice space, but get the rest.
one word: RX7

$25k...
VS Series 2 Statesman, supercharged, with leather pack. Then slap on 20" rims, exhaust, intake, lumpy cam, fresh MEMCAL, air bag suspension, AV stereo, limo tints and still have enough left for a few weeks worth of cruising and KFC.

Not to mention the pluses of:
1. Mostly owned by old blokes who look after their stuff. (Reliable)
2. Parts are cheap as chips and freely available. God Bless interchangability with Commodore's eh ? (Easy Maintainance)
3. The performance of those blown limo's in indecent.. 15.5 second 1/4 mile's stock ? (Performance)
4. Driven lightly the blown beasts use less fuel than an NA model ! (Economy).

If you're under 25 tho, I'd hate to see your insurance premiums on one..

At first i also thought super6 aswe;; .. but didnt bother speaking of it, as i was fairly sure i'd get flamed for the 'no holden commonwhores'..

i was about to to say an RX7. my mate has a black 88 turbo one with fully adjustabe suspension and rims...imported for $7k road going for about 9. a black one with chrome aropund costs not much, they look like a porsche 944 and are pimping and go like the clappers.

Rhyso

thats why its my favourite car but the series 6 ones, but i like all the older models as well though.

Anyone who calls a Statesman a Commodore should be shot in the head as an act of kindness

for $25k
I'd be going an early-late model evo

Evo 6's are about $28k and you get a car that cranks out almost 200kw at all 4 wheels from standard!

That would be my buy for sure!

^^^ possibly thrashed to the $hithouse though

that's the thing with performance cars though, people buy them to drive them hard.

better budget $$$'s for maintenance/repairs

- Stooge007 out

there are corollas out there doing 13's/14's


the soarers/chasers look like a good option if you want a "bigger" car

depends what you value more out of the looks, speed, price, reliability, economy, insurance, parts and anything else that is important in a car

compression tests on thrashed engines and it'll show up.

But as you say, you buy them to drive them properly. My theory is, why worry about what the car has been through if you are only going to put it through hell yourself.

birdd,
Insurance will be a PITA no matter what "fun" car you choose (turbo/blown/v8), so I think that is a concession you will have to make.

you can have this for $20,000, pm me if your interested..

that chaser looks so mad, i'd love to own 1 of them.

I'll say something a little different, how about a focus ST170. Has the looks, ride is awesome on it and parts are very reasonable. Insurance shouldn't be too much of a concern either. An alternative could also be a golf GTi mk4. Those would be my choices.

Hmm... thanks for all the suggestions.

I probably should start a new thread about this, but I have been thinking maybe I should just forget the unique part (to a certain extent ) and just go for a Medium sized (camry size) car with decent performance (or luxury).

My thoughts were maybe:
Holden Vectra
Toyota Camry
Honda Accord (Euro?)

I dunno I haven't really looked much into any of those, so I don't know what the performance is like out of any of them.

the r34 is a 4door stock turbo btw.. (206kw)

accord euro would be nice if your going for the stylish look..

camrys imo are family cars which wont have much of a push unless you go for the sportivo.. not sure bout the price on the sportivo