Most of you have probably seen my thread about the unique car for under $25000. Well I have had a slight change in direction...

I'm considering getting a new car soonish, but I don't know what to get. I currently own a 97 Corolla Seca. Now its no speed machine, its not a bad car, reliable, and fuel efficient. But its just too boring and underpowered now :S

So i'm wanting to get something with more power and more torque. I would like to get a car capable of a 14sec 1/4 it doesn't have to do that stock, but it would need to be able to do that without spending massive amounts of money. I want to move up a bit in terms of size more to a mid size car, something like camry size or so. I also want something a little unique. So that counts out all Falcodores! I don't mind ifi get a common brand i just want a unique car, so i'm not just driving around in the same ol car everone else is (like my rolla, and all the falcodores)

So I what I'd like is a car that has:
- a big boot, i'd like to be able to have my 50L (i think thats the size) sub box, and be able to fit a reasonable ammount of luggage as well (would be good to be able to have enough room for luggage for 4 people for a weekend, or two people with swags and luggage )
- a strong motor... (unlike the 7AFE) so that it can handle a enough boost (from a Raptor Supercharger (a mate ) to be able to get the car down to 14sec or lower 1/4s
- comfortable carry 4 people

So a couple of cars i have thought of are:
The AE112 corolla, from photos it looks to have big boot (compared to my AE102 corolla), but it still has the 7AFE which is weak
Another option is a SR20 powered Nissan (i'm not sure what models have that motor?) that has a big boot?)

What else should i look at?

Have to be 4 door?

First thing that came to mind when you mentioned boost, big boot, and not a commonwhore, was soarer.

Or the toyota celsior

VS Statesman Series 2 Supercharged.. 15.5 second 1/4s stock. Open the inlet, up the boost, extractors and free exhaust should drop it to the 14's no problems.

VS S2 Calais, same deal, smaller and cheaper.

Stretch the budget and you could prolly snag a VT SS Gen 3

E34 BMW 535i

go looking for an import r32 or r33skylines can be had for that much even jza70 supra or u can go for the v8s if ur not a fan of import cars

theres a few 3rd gen magnas (3.5L, non turbo) running 13's.

From what i can remeber, i think one is running laughing gas, but only has a few thousand in the engine department.

Or, AWD 3rd gen, supercharged (place called sprintex that make superchargers for em) and that should up the boost to about 260Kw.

Oh yeah the supercharger is about $8K installed, and the car itself would be about 10K to purcashe.

sorry for another magna post but hey i can only contribute what i know

eunos (mazda) cosmo

twin turbo (sequential) rotary engine.

13B or 20B. the 20B does 14.1seconds stock qtr mile. strong engine, rev's hard. capable of 400kw. double wishbone suspension.

unique

nissan stagea's, skyline engines, turbo'd..has ur large boot being a station wagon

Beat me to it nav - Go for the Stagea - they're unique wagons, and are powered by RB25DET as well. Perfect for what you're after.




OH and did i mention that you can fit R34 front ends on them?

^^oh my god i have my next wagon!

Yeah I like the idea of Soarer or Celsior. How is the fuel ecconomy on the V8 versions?


I'd prefer to keep away from the commodores and falcons, too common IMO.



Nice
I'm not a fan of the older E34 (or E36), though a E39 (or E46) would be quite nice How quick are the 535s? both E34 and E39.


I'd prefer to avoid the imports... My mate has a S13 Silvia and has had never ending troulbe as of lately.



I have some cousins and the whole family owns mitsubishi, and all of the brothers have a 3.5L magna each... Yes they are quick, but i just don't think I could "lower" myself to buy a mitsubishi


I'd prefer to avoid rotories, I've heard they can be quite unreliable??? and not great fuel ecconomy? Stageas, again I'd prefer to avoid imports...


See above

I have thought of another option maybe? A 2000ish model civic sedan...? (From Photos they look to have a pretty decent sized boot?) Do they all have VTEC? how strong are the motors? ie could they handle enough boost to get one down to a 14sec 1/4?

A STATESMAN is not a COMMODORE. May as well call that Stagea a Pulsar..

Hmmm... I thought I replied to this... maybe not...
Toyota Chaser would fit into that catagory I think..
Or what about a Lexus LS400

EDIT: sorry just read that you wanna avoid imports

I know that... BUT they are still based on the same thing... Same motor... Same interior... basically same looks...

Not unique either though.....

It doesn't have to be completely unique, just something less common.

I'd class a commodore and a falcon as a common car, but I'd class a maxima or a accord as less common.

hmmm hondas in 14 seconds, with boost yes, but if you plan on going faster, than a bit more money will need to be spent.

If its a 2000 model, and sedan, i dont think they came with VTEC, and even if they did, it wouldnt be THAT good, because it would be SOHC VTEC, which isnt the "real vtec" like those Type R's and ETC which are DOHC vtec.

And accord 1996 model ish would be alright, and you could supercharge that, 2.2 SOHC vtec, or you could even change the motor and put a Prelude engine H22A, which is a direct fit, ie no different engine mounts, fits the exact same.

A maxima the 1997-8 models, are fairly popular in the states and plenty of people have supercharged them for a 13 sec pass, not sure if the S/c you are given will be up to the job.


philz

Ok, so I'd need to go for a hatch in a civic to get the "real" VTEC?
How good are the Accord's standard? Wussy?

I found this Maxima ( http://www.cardomain.com/ride/140608 ) - Supercharged. 97 Model. Looks like the engine bay is pretty tight.
Does anyone know what how quick these are standard?

My mate is looking at a EF-EL Fairmont Gaia, and he sent me this one: http://www.carsales.com.au/pls/carsales/&#...icle_id=3135286
Damn that one is sexy... I could own that one

accords standard aren't very fast..
turbocharging a honda itself is gonna cost u like $4-6g or so if ur not gonna do the work urself. unless ur goin for the newer model accords remember ur looking at front wheel drive cars. also consider the factors of turbocharging an NA car..with all this u'll need a break upgrade etc. honda's can be quick, very quick, but money is needed for that. in the states as someones mentioned above, they're pretty popular.

Chrysler Hardtop. Don't think you'll find many Australian cars with a bigger boot. Power comes from a 360ci V8. Inside there's electric seats and stuff, deep doors and kickpanels.

x2. go for a vh hardtop...nearly the sexiset chrysler ever

throw a 4agze (supercharged) or 4agte (turbo) into your seca....it would cost a bit (~$5000) but there are turbos running 13-14 sec 1/4's....the seca might be a bit different though as its gonna be heavier

I'd love to do that... but the the car is just a bit too small... :S If i had an AE112 i'd consider it more. But Yes I'd love to do up an AE102 Seca, I recon with a decent body kit, they would look fat

subaru forester
http://www.carsales.com.au/pls/carsales/&#...ch_distance=500

celsior, cifero. could get a turbo cifero for bout 10,000

i think h22a's run high 14's but the boot in the preludes arent very big

it's a commonwhore you pansy same as a monaro.

there all taxis haha

mate id be heading towards the direction on something like a RS liberty, easily gets 14sec qtrs, 13s without to much work. they usually go for around 10-13g for a reasonable nic one. If your after big boot, get the wagon, just as fast but with heaps of space. Parts are easy enough to get, as they share basically the parts as a WRX. and there not that hard to work on. the only main drawback i see with them is the gearbox, but if your nice to it (ie no 7000rpm launches), you wont have any problems.

Yeah i second an EL Fairmont ghia, i was gonna get one a couple of cars ago. They are reliable and fast but dont handle to well and obviously they feel really cheap because they are Australian made.

An e34 535i should get to 100 in just under 8 seconds and pull hard to 240kph + but its not about the speed the BMW will impress in many ways. I would not get a e39 because the 6cyl's are pissweak in these heavy cars and the v8's fall apart after 200K

U could also consider an EL Xr6 or a VSSS holden, but again u will be plagued with that feeling of cheapness.

WRX/Liberty sound like exactly what your after dude, they have big boots, happily fit 2 15's and all the groceries in there, they are fast, the libertys are pretty uncommon when done up nicely (tint/lowering and they are instantly appealing )

Even though uve said ud rather stay away from imports a JZA80 Non-turbo supra ('93-'98) can be found in reasonable nick for around 15-16k if u hunt abit.

they're a toyota and are very reliable, not too sure about speed down the 1/4 though. ohh and theyre sexy as

http://crazyjim.ramelot.com/14seconds.htm

something i found quite amusing....worth the read for anyone who has a look trust me

anyway

i'd be backing the Stagea or the Liberty wagon for sure

but like u said if ur not keen on the imports the stagea might be out.....very nice and not commonly seen

for sure the Liberty Wagon though.....have been drooling over one that lives near my place......black.....tinted and dropped a little bit....not even any rims....and looks like gold

Hey ther guys,

if you want a wagon i would go a Subie Forrester, i love that square look, and heaps of room in the back, plus they go preety hard.

i also second a 20b Eunos cosmo, as this is one of my dream cars, although maybe not for you if you have issues with reliability of rotaries/and the fact that they are two door, but come on, twin turbo triple rotor? who could resist...

also i second the toyota celsior, also known as LS400 in lexus guise, they are one sexy mafia-style car, although i dont know about the reliablity of the jap v8.

cheers