Redav
Dec 6 2003, 01:55 AM
I was driving through the city the other day in peak hour traffic when a car was parked in the middle lane with its hazzard lights on. I thought i will try a bit of Mr mechanic and decided to pull in front and give them a hand.
When i asked the young lass what the problem was she replyed "sniff snif well actually i am a learner driver and haven't learnt how to do a hill start yet...." after i got over the whole fact that because she stalled the car she decided to park it. i thought i would give her the benifit of the doubt that something is wrong. i reached into the car and started it (which happened perfectly i might add). i then told her how to take off and she nearly hit my car that was still parked in front of her.
We then left and she didn't get above 40 kph when we reached traffic lights. To my supprise she stalled it again, so i took off. Some people just don't have a clue.
FatZED
Dec 6 2003, 06:02 AM
i don't get it, if she's a learner driver doesn't that mean she has to have someone in the car with her who has had their licence for a minimum of 2 years? thats what the law is in w.a.
still, it is hard being a learner driver, its the pressure moreso than the skill required for driving.
Kramy
Dec 6 2003, 12:36 PM
we all have to start somewhere. Yes she should of had someone in the car with her. and what the hell is a learner doing in the city in peak hour?
What did she look like? you could of given her your details and told her that you could give her driving lessons. lol
G-Phresh
Dec 6 2003, 12:39 PM
yeah i thought a licensed driver was supposed to be in the car with a L plater
and yeah i agree, you can get good pretty quickly
its dealing with the a$$holes who have their license who are behind you beeping and carrying on when you can only do about 80km/h
the stress can get to ya if your in a car with a tool behind you thinking that he never learned to drive before
but good stuff for stoppping and trying to help
-Gaz
Beezo
Dec 6 2003, 03:03 PM
i just wonder, would he have done the same thing if it wasn't a girl?
Redav
Dec 6 2003, 05:38 PM
Yeah, he would have because he'd pulled over before he saw the occupant.
WRXCORE
Dec 6 2003, 09:25 PM
Soo it never crossed her mind, to swap drivers for the hill start?? hahaha.
Well blame the rule makers, u just need to pass a written(computer) test and boom your allowed on the road without actually knowing how to drive hahaha. I would put the driver who was sitting next to the L plater at fault for putting that person in a dangerous situation...
Redav
Dec 7 2003, 12:03 AM
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Originally posted by WRXCORE:
I would put the driver who was sitting next to the L plater at fault for putting that person in a dangerous situation...
From what I understand she was driving by herself.
Sword
Dec 7 2003, 02:57 AM
ahah yer im currently on l's
its great laughing at all the people that do stupid **** to you, i have already had people driving on the wrong side of the road at me to merely see what id do...
and yer.. i dont think she shoulda been in peak hour traffic anyways... and second she shoulda had someone else in the car.. (afaik its illeagal not to have someone that has had their full license for 2 years i think it is)
and to WRXCORE - you have to do the test showing you can drive before u get l2's, then u get that computer thing to get p's - the test to get l2's is the same as the one you woulda had to get ur p's *may be different interstate but thats how it is in perth
[ December 07, 2003, 00:59: Message edited by: Sword ]
InterCooL
Dec 7 2003, 03:08 AM
good on you for stopping
2 days ago i turned up a 2 way street and there was some learner in a learn 2 drive school car, driving in the middle of the road so there was barely enough room for me to get through... had to kiss the car parked on the kerb whilst this tiny lil toyota echo (WITH paid instructor in it) has about 2-3m between them and the cars parked on their side
not angry at the driver, just not impressed with the instructor
Anonymous
Dec 7 2003, 03:45 AM
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Originally posted by WRXCORE:
Well blame the rule makers, u just need to pass a written(computer) test and boom your allowed on the road without actually knowing how to drive hahaha.
sooo... just a point i have to make here... how would we know how to drive without being allowed on the roads to learn??
Anonymous
Dec 7 2003, 04:01 AM
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Originally posted by BaSSiK_AngeL:
quote:
Originally posted by WRXCORE:
[b]Well blame the rule makers, u just need to pass a written(computer) test and boom your allowed on the road without actually knowing how to drive hahaha.
RockfordMini
Dec 8 2003, 12:02 AM
gotta say that learners 80k's rule's not the greatest, there's a fair deal of accidents caused by people driving too slow
G-Phresh
Dec 8 2003, 09:33 AM
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Originally posted by RockfordMini:
gotta say that learners 80k's rule's not the greatest, there's a fair deal of accidents caused by people driving too slow
and theirs alot of road rage by other drivers because of it aswell
not the best idea in the world
-Gaz
Marlin
Dec 8 2003, 12:49 PM
Whats the learners 80k rules.
WRXCORE
Dec 8 2003, 05:25 PM
QUOTE
Originally posted by BaSSiK_AngeL:
quote:
Originally posted by WRXCORE:
[b]Well blame the rule makers, u just need to pass a written(computer) test and boom your allowed on the road without actually knowing how to drive hahaha.
School Like every other country I didnt say you shouldnt be not allowed, I said without any skills at all your allowed to get in a car and start driving in traffic.
Well maybe its different in other states but here in NSW you need a driver with you on your L's. That be completely stupid to let a L'plater on the road by themselves. They dont let pilots, scubadivers, etc by themselves on the 1st attempts.
When you 1st learnt to ride a bike, you most prob learnt in the backyard, in a park, not down the middle of the city
exup
Dec 8 2003, 09:21 PM
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Originally posted by Redav:
Yeah, he would have because he'd pulled over before he saw the occupant.
no he didnt - that is y he was in front, not behind
exup
Dec 8 2003, 09:29 PM
quote:
Originally posted by WRXCORE:
[QBWhen you 1st learnt to ride a bike, you most prob learnt in the backyard, in a park, not down the middle of the city And p's u have to do a course as well...not just cruise round the street for 2 mins.
Flipmo
Dec 11 2003, 12:09 AM
up here in qld you have to take a test which is 30 questions long, and its easy as, and the awnsers are very avaliable so there is idiots everywhere with no idea
RockfordMini
Dec 11 2003, 01:21 AM
for moto l's here it's 5 q's if u have u're car license, for p's u gotta do a q-ride course and that's only if u show a fair amount of skill beforehand
Anonymous
Dec 11 2003, 03:14 AM
In WA, you have to do a 30 question learners test after you turn 16, you can then drive with someone who has had their lisence for 4 years or more.
Then after you turn 17, you apply for a log book by doing a driving test, after which you have to do 25 hours of driving, with someone in the car at all times.
After that you do a computer test, and you then have your p's haha
CaRBoNeTTe
Dec 11 2003, 12:03 PM
Give her a break...
she's LEARNING!!
I'm sure you were a bit unko aswell.
Redav
Dec 11 2003, 01:19 PM
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Originally posted by CaRBoNeTTe:
Give her a break...
she's LEARNING!!
I'm sure you were a bit unko aswell.
Agreed. I tried a hillstart in a 52kW Laser once. But at least I had someone with me.
frogsprog
Dec 11 2003, 01:33 PM
yeah well i just got off my l's a few months back and i never had any troubles i think the rules well atleast here in nsw are if anything to harsh because u have to pay like 40 bucks to get ur l's even more if u fail maybe 20 bucks for another attempt and like 40 bucks a go for ur p's driving test then 30 bucks if u get it and professional driving lessons cost 80 bucks an hour and for people that have to pay with there 6 or 7 dollar an hour job or if ur just poor fullstop that alot of money especially if u fail, it seems to me driving is becoming a privilage for the rich which i think make up a majority of the poor drivers and also i think driving courses and workshops for people on thier l's is a great idea but i'm sure they'd use it to pump more money out of teens on thier l's
SomeFReaK
Dec 11 2003, 01:49 PM
QUOTE
Originally posted by CaRBoNeTTe:
Give her a break...
she's LEARNING!!
I'm sure you were a bit unko aswell.
While thats true, there is still places and people to help you through situations that arise from learning to drive. I must admit, i learnt to drive on a farm, but alot of city people should take up lessons from instructors. Instructors cars are setup so they can help you when your in your early stages of learning (dual control) I know it took me a few tries to get the hang of hill starts, but i was able to take my time while getting a feel for it. City driving in peak hour doesn't allow it and gets the learner worried and ancious (SP?)
Redav
Dec 13 2003, 12:30 AM
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Originally posted by frogsprog:
it seems to me driving is becoming a privilage for the rich
Driving is a privilage but just so I don't take your comment out of context, it is a shame it is exy to get started.
Stone
Dec 13 2003, 12:38 AM
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Originally posted by CaRBoNeTTe:
Give her a break...
she's LEARNING!!
I'm sure you were a bit unko aswell.
If she's an L plater, she shouldn't have even been driving without a licensed driver in the car. It was her own stupid fault for breaking the laws that are there to help and protect her.
Subatomic
Dec 13 2003, 12:47 AM
QUOTE
Originally posted by Stone:
quote:
Originally posted by CaRBoNeTTe:
[b]Give her a break...
she's LEARNING!!
I'm sure you were a bit unko aswell.
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