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jas
So anyone heard about this new line up of dynaudio car drivers???

They were on display @ the 2006 ces but i have yet to see any information about these as yet.

anyone know anything???

http://www.cinenow.com/uk/play-video-197.html
~thematt~
Ive read a tiny bit of information about them. Dont know how much is fact and how much is false.

Their products will replace the '0' at the end with a '2', so the MD100 will become the MD102, the 140/2 -> 142 the MW160 -> MW162 etc etc. I think the MD140/2 will be the only driver that will stay the same (but just with the name change). All the rest are getting an upgrade. Heard the Woofers should be able to reach slightly lower, but Im really interested in the Esotar. Will they make it smaller (like the piccolo version of the supremo?) because Id pay for that one!!
jas
im very close to getting the esotars for the car....but if there is one with the EXACT same sound and its smaller it will sound a lot better in my install. NOw 5 1/4 worth of esotar is a install problem, but if they can squeeze it into 100mm diameter now that would be useful.

just need to know if the esotar will be a smaller version and when it will be released...hmmm esotar i miss that sound.
Hutch
News regarding the Mobile range is just around the corner. Be patient. I can tell you the new range comes under the brand of 'Esotec'. More news soon.
Shreknos
oh crap how exciting,


and in a time where im about to buy new speakers...

god loves us all....
MADTRAV
Why a new brand name? will they be the same dyn quality?? please keep us posted
~thematt~
Its not a new brand name as such, as they will still be called Dynaudio, but now the range will be called 'Esotec', to slot in with their Confidence, Evidence, Contour and Focus lines. At least thats what Im told. Could be wrong unknw.gif
jas
will they announce a esotar v2???

they already have them for the home speakers...i just hope they do
SlimLim
ohmy.gif

i'm gonna be waiting in anticipation for these!
-DJ-
QUOTE (jas @ Aug 15 2006, 10:40 AM) *
will they announce a esotar v2???

they already have them for the home speakers...i just hope they do


well once hutch gets back to us... clapping.gif i would be surprised if the esotar2 driver didn't appear in the car lineup in a form specifically built for automotive use. its the next logical step. i doubt they'd just re-release the esotar with a new shape and model# when they've had the esotar2 in their confidence/evidence/etc ranges for quite a while. ah man i love it when dyn comes out with new schtuff! rocker.gif

man that video makes me wet. how can one not drewl when they see the evidences!!??!!

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~thematt~
A certain birdy has told me the Esotar V2 will be coming out in this line. But they will not be getting smaller. After all, they have a 3" VC!!
Damon
With the Focal Be out I guess that's finally motivated Dynaudio to step up to the plate with upgraded drivers.
jas
QUOTE (~thematt~ @ Aug 25 2006, 09:52 AM) *
A certain birdy has told me the Esotar V2 will be coming out in this line. But they will not be getting smaller. After all, they have a 3" VC!!


i dont think they will have a 3inch voice coil, the diaphram of the tweeter is 1.1inch. From all reports the standard home speaker version of the esotar 2 has a neo magnet and it quite small. Just look how close the two tweeters are placed in the middle of the most expensive home speaker dyn makes. You would assume this "technology" would follow down to the car audio versions of the dyn drivers.
-DJ-
QUOTE (Damon @ Aug 25 2006, 10:54 AM) *
With the Focal Be out I guess that's finally motivated Dynaudio to step up to the plate with upgraded drivers.


hmmm.... i don't really think dynaudio have ever really been in competition with focal biggrin.gif i reckon the danes would probably feel that their esotar is in a different league, just quietly... think evidence masters vs utopia be's. think confidence 4's vs b&w 801 diamonds.... but then again i'm prob. too opinionated wink.gif *shrugs*


QUOTE (jas @ Aug 25 2006, 02:36 PM) *
i dont think they will have a 3inch voice coil, the diaphram of the tweeter is 1.1inch. From all reports the standard home speaker version of the esotar 2 has a neo magnet and it quite small. Just look how close the two tweeters are placed in the middle of the most expensive home speaker dyn makes. You would assume this "technology" would follow down to the car audio versions of the dyn drivers.


the md330d has a 28mm voice coil but a 70-something mm magnet from memory.
~thematt~
^^^ What he said. I got the VC and the magnet mixed up. smile.gif

Plus, the Dyn range should be fully released in ~10 months. Im pretty sure they will be releasing unit by unit as opposed to the entire line at once.
chanhonam
and thats where all my money go to!!!
jas
if its going to be 10months i will not even bother with dyn
Hutch
All going well the new Dynaudio Authentic Fidelity range will land on our shores in around 3 weeks time. Pictures, pricing and technical information will be forthcoming on their arrival.
brady123
QUOTE (Hutch @ Aug 28 2006, 01:00 PM) *
will land on our shores in around 3 weeks time.
Heck yes! Great news Steve..
~thematt~
QUOTE (Hutch @ Aug 28 2006, 11:00 AM) *
All going well the new Dynaudio Authentic Fidelity range will land on our shores in around 3 weeks time. Pictures, pricing and technical information will be forthcoming on their arrival.

I like that date even better tongue.gif I dont mind being wrong!!
-DJ-
fantastic. i await the day eagerly smile.gif always exciting times when dyn comes out with new product cos it happens so damn infrequently!! hehe

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jas
in the UK its believed that the esotar is not going to be released in 3weeks time only the standard sets.

this might be purely speculation but have a look at this link anyway

http://www.talkaudio.co.uk/vbb/showthread.php?t=169683
~thematt~
QUOTE (Hutch @ Aug 28 2006, 11:00 AM) *
All going well the new Dynaudio Authentic Fidelity range will land on our shores in around 3 weeks time. Pictures, pricing and technical information will be forthcoming on their arrival.

Hey Hutch, whats the news??
Hutch
The new range consists of replacements for all of the current models with the exception of the Esotar, MD-130 and MW-190. New versions of these drivers will be released when Dynaudio completes their development from home drivers into mobile drivers. How long this will take is not known at this stage but knowing Dynaudio, I personally won't be holding my breath while I wait.

The new range is now in production and I am awaiting shipping.
-DJ-
smile.gif sick. smile.gif
Pulse-R
pair of MW-162's please smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif
brady123
Well, the webby is updated.

Shipped yet Hutch?

Or a pricelist maybe? I want to know how much I gotta save. smile.gif
DaBaSSy1
QUOTE (Hutch @ Aug 28 2006, 03:00 AM) *
All going well the new Dynaudio Authentic Fidelity range will land on our shores in around 3 weeks time. Pictures, pricing and technical information will be forthcoming on their arrival.

Awesome! I'll start saving now smile.gif
~thematt~
No Esotecs or Esotars on the website sad.gif

I know they werent going to update them straight away, but seriously, removing them from the lineup? That blows!!
mommers188
I'm presuming the new Esotec System 222 will be priced similarly to the old System 220MkII??
Shreknos
well???

any news on how they sound???


how they will cost???

were all dying with anticipation...
pantsonfire
Cost is going to be $100 extra per set. System 340 was $1399 so System 342 will be $1499.

Have read they will no longer be selling items individually. Would love to get a set of the 102 tweets and use the 100's passive, hopefully its going to be possible. The tweeters are apparently the biggest improvement and the Md142 is able to play a lot lower comfortably.
sqgator
QUOTE (pantsonfire @ Oct 17 2006, 02:27 PM) *
the Md142 is able to play a lot lower comfortably.


I thought the changes in MD142 are mainy cosmetic. The improvement is supposedly on enhancing the midrange of midbass drivers (MW162/MW172) and enhancing MD102 tweeter, not sure if there are any major improvement on MD132 though.
Shreknos
they reckon they put stonger magnets, and new spiders, same cil and cone setup, so i would say it would be much akin to the old sound, just more detailed...

which, IMO will make them the greatest speaker ever, cos the old dyns were a bit bright up top, and lacked some detail,

these ones will have the sound we all love, but be detailed... perfect...
~thematt~
I havent heard the MD142 yet, but its specs are almost identical to the MD140. It cant play any lower. Fs is still 475Hz (MD140/2 was 480).

And there doesnt seem to be any Esotec or Esotar at all. Personally, I think thats a mistake, but we will wait and see what happens....biggrin.gif
_Anthony_
A lot of people talk about them, but how many actually buy them? That may have influenced their decision somewhat
pantsonfire
http://forum.elitecaraudio.com/showthread....mp;pagenumber=4

Some people have probably read this but third post down is a fairly good review of the new drivers
Shreknos
hmmm....

sounds real interesting,

the midrange is a bit of a letdown,

but cant wait to get my hands on a new two way set...

i might stick with my profi mid for now...
~thematt~
QUOTE (The Tick @ Oct 17 2006, 05:31 PM) *
A lot of people talk about them, but how many actually buy them? That may have influenced their decision somewhat

Fair statement, but I'd doubt it. I mean, price is irrelevant to the ultimate speakers for the ultimate audiophile. Focal Be Grande, Dynaudio Evidence, Tannoy, Waldorfs, B&W Nautilus. They all exist for a select market who can afford them (admittingly not a large group) but they still exist!! The Esotec was only $500, and worth every penny. The Esotar was a bit steeper at $1500 as pair, but again, worth every penny. IMO it was only the size of the Esotar that was my problem.

And Ill wait for my own opinions before jumping on some other guys. Personally, I like the Dyn mid (MD140/2). Only problem is the inability to remove the grill. Other then that, mine does the job.
Shreknos
is the old esotar still available???

is it available witht the new woofers??

hutch, your pms are disabled, do you have an email???
Shreknos
bump??
Shreknos
"oh really, thanks mate, thats great, im so glad dyn can give such a sure and solid responce so quick" biggrin.gif

oh, and i love having conversations with myself...
brady123
Maybe Dynaudio themselves dont have any updated information, thats why you havent heard back. Dont assume they are ignoring you.
Shreknos
i dont assume things mate,

a "hey charlie, thanks for your interest in a 2k plus product of ours, we dont really know cos of xyz reasons wen they will be there"

or a "hi mate, the esotar is staying/going/being updated very soon"

is all i wanted, i dont see the need for tight lippedness, now im thinking stuff the esotar, ill look elsewhere,

not having a gripe, just wnated some feedback


biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

i might get some polk sig ref instead...

tongue.gif
brady123
Youre basing your decision on what you experience on the Internet?

Keep in mind that there is just one Dynaudio representative on these forums, and Im sure he would be a VERY busy person. Just because he doesnt get back to you in a week doesnt mean you should be offended. Ive found Hutch to be great to deal with.

And saying things like "stuff the Esotar" is not helping your cause.

http://www.caraudioaustralia.com/acad/inde...=155&page=0
Postal and email address, phone and fax numbers...all available if you are serious about buying Dynaudio.

Im not picking on you. I just think that its a little daft.
~thematt~
I was just about to suggest calling Steve, but was beaten to the punch.... who would have thought that calling the distributor for the information would have actually gotten you the information?!

Its always the simple things in life....

And who would be crazy enough to commit to 1.5k tweeters without listening to them? If you WERE intending to listen to them, why would anyone's opinions on here matter?
Shreknos
i would like to listen to them,

and frankly, opinions mean zero to me as they must be biased,

it was a simple aproach on the only plane i have to contact HUTCH, i asked for an email add, or something ages ago,

would it not have been easier for you to offer me this last week instead of pointing out my daftness???


i have rang a few stores, and all could say nothing, marty even siad, "the new ones come in each time the old ones get sold,"

meaning it could be forever,

it was stated that they were 3 weeks away, and i as interested in a product...

how foolish of me ay??
pantsonfire
have heard there will be new esotars but not at the same time as the rest.

if marty and the other stores tell you the same thing what makes you think hutch or someone here will have anything different to say. i'm sure they're all more interested in info on the speakers than you.

go buy a set of the old ones or listen to them. have heard the esotar system and its amazing, i really cant see how they can improve it a great deal. just heard my system 340 that i got cheap because these are coming, and they're amazing, the old ones are still better than 99.5% of speakers out there yahoo.gif yahoo.gif
~thematt~
Under Hutch's name, is a button with an 'i' and 'card' written on it. Click there. Then click 'send email'. From there, you can contact Hutch directly.
Shreknos
thanks guys...

thats what i wanted to know too, is the old esotar available at a discount???


i will contact him
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