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Cruiser
There are no new Esotar's left in the country as far as I know!
zion187reigneth
Theres nothing wrong with buying something you havent tested.
Its the same as buying a top line performance car , you get to drive it around the streeet blah blah blah , and u end up buying it cause of the specs and because of the feedback from others , only to take it home and test it yourself buy flogging it and knowing its strong points and weak points.Then you become the one giving feedback.
High end speakers,performance dirt bikes,road bikes,computers,shoes, this list is endless good.gif .......zion
Shreknos
exactly zion,


ill put it like this,if i get esotar passive set, and dont like them...

i will give them away through a hat draw...
zion187reigneth
QUOTE (-Charlie- @ Nov 2 2006, 05:54 PM) *
exactly zion,
ill put it like this,if i get esotar passive set, and dont like them...

i will give them away through a hat draw...

take your own advise on a 2way and swap out the tweeter for a high end wider range peice , and then run the 2way tweet as ambient?(you got any nice apples where u work?)............zion
Hutch
The Dynaudio Esotec range will be landing in the country early next week. I anticipate them being in east coast stores by the end of next week, and in my car within 24 hours of arrival!
CVBASS
awesome, I cant wait to get some good speakers in my car and get my install done!!! Let us know what you think Steve! smile.gif
Wasnt Me
QUOTE (Cruiser @ Nov 1 2006, 09:12 PM) *
There are no new Esotar's left in the country as far as I know!


Thats before i bought the last pair hahahahah =)

And yes they sound bloody fantastic. The only problem is the size of them. (They are heavier than the mkII mids, deeper than the mkII mids). They fit lots of dashes except mine lol... But the esotars is one of those speakers that you have to listen if given a chance! Aural heaven..
Hutch
CVBASS, I will email you as soon as I have them in the warehouse.
sqgator
From what I can gather, if they ever release the Esotar 2 car audio version, it will be a lot more expensive than the old Esotar and I mean a lot more!!!
Hens
Not that I'm trying to be a prick, but how do you gather that? A gut inclination? because I'm really interested in the new esotar when it becomes available
zion187reigneth
how much are they, what specs are they and where do i look? .Charlie did u have any luck looking..........zion
-DJ-
we can only suck it and wait, really, but based on the authentic fidelity ranges, i get the same feeling.

dyn's esotar2 appears in much more expensive designs than the old esotar. take the prices of the confidence lines - the old c3 bookshelf to the new c1. the old c5 compared to the c2 or c4. if you go back really far you could also compare the consequence to the evidence line.

the old esotar was also built many many many moons ago and the e2 has had a lot more development i'd reckon. whichever way you look at it the new tweet is in more expensive speakers than the old versions equivalent and as such, i'd imagine the worlds best tweet also carries an astronomical pricetag too...

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Pulse-R
I didn't like the sound of the home audio dyn's in the shop - but I suspect that's to do with the crossovers. the car range seems much nicer sounding.

new dyns soon..mmmmmm
sqgator
QUOTE (-DJ- @ Nov 19 2006, 02:00 PM) *
we can only suck it and wait, really, but based on the authentic fidelity ranges, i get the same feeling.

dyn's esotar2 appears in much more expensive designs than the old esotar. take the prices of the confidence lines - the old c3 bookshelf to the new c1. the old c5 compared to the c2 or c4. if you go back really far you could also compare the consequence to the evidence line.

the old esotar was also built many many many moons ago and the e2 has had a lot more development i'd reckon. whichever way you look at it the new tweet is in more expensive speakers than the old versions equivalent and as such, i'd imagine the worlds best tweet also carries an astronomical pricetag too...

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You are spot-on. I am eagerly await the Esotar2 as well, but if what I have learnt recently from someone is true, the pricing will make it one of the most expensive tweeter ever (other than those diamond tweeters) and make the old esotar look like a bargain. I guess Scan Ring Radiator or Morel Piccolo maybe the way to go for me.
muzzy66
QUOTE (zion187reigneth @ Nov 1 2006, 11:42 AM) *
Theres nothing wrong with buying something you havent tested.
Its the same as buying a top line performance car , you get to drive it around the streeet blah blah blah , and u end up buying it cause of the specs and because of the feedback from others , only to take it home and test it yourself buy flogging it and knowing its strong points and weak points.Then you become the one giving feedback.
High end speakers,performance dirt bikes,road bikes,computers,shoes, this list is endless good.gif .......zion


Are you serious?

Would you honestly spend $60,000 on a new car if you weren't able to get a test drive first? I'm sure you wouldn't, and if you would then IMO you either have too much money, or else simply be insane!

Likewise, I'd try on shoes before I buy them, rather then reading reviews, because what is comfortable to one person doesn't mean a thing to another. Hell I wouldn't even buy a steering wheel or gear knob for my car without first having a look and touch of it in person to see how well it fits the hand etc. Nor buy wheels for my car without first getting an indication of what they'd look like on it.

I've bought speakers in the past without hearing them, but it was a risk and I was lucky that it worked out well because I ended up liking them. However, since then i've heard a number of high end speakers and subs costing upward of $1,000 that i've been not particularly impressed with and these days i'd never really take the risk.

For $300 it's not so bad, but when it's $1,500 i'd want the best possible indication of a speakers performance before forking out the big ones, and that would be a physical audition.
zion187reigneth
QUOTE (muzzy66 @ Nov 19 2006, 08:46 PM) *
Are you serious?

Would you honestly spend $60,000 on a new car if you weren't able to get a test drive first? I'm sure you wouldn't, and if you would then IMO you either have too much money, or else simply be insane!

Likewise, I'd try on shoes before I buy them, rather then reading reviews, because what is comfortable to one person doesn't mean a thing to another. Hell I wouldn't even buy a steering wheel or gear knob for my car without first having a look and touch of it in person to see how well it fits the hand etc. Nor buy wheels for my car without first getting an indication of what they'd look like on it.

I've bought speakers in the past without hearing them, but it was a risk and I was lucky that it worked out well because I ended up liking them. However, since then i've heard a number of high end speakers and subs costing upward of $1,000 that i've been not particularly impressed with and these days i'd never really take the risk.

For $300 it's not so bad, but when it's $1,500 i'd want the best possible indication of a speakers performance before forking out the big ones, and that would be a physical audition.

you missunderstood me
Everyone knows that all those high end speakers mentioned are gonna sound nice.The same as the performance car when u first test it as it looks nice it goes hard but months and years of driving will determine its charector.
Its the same with shoes.
I think its alright to trust some of the champs reviews as they hear all the speakers.Any board tech in the shop is gonna make all the high end speakers sound nice.
And if the speaker in question has won any worthy title then thats good enough for me.
With pro racing on the dirt bikes , anything that is labeled a factory racing product gets a instant look in for the non factory riders as they know those parts will perform.
I still agree that listening is good but its not the be all and end all..........zion
Brycestro
QUOTE (zion187reigneth @ Nov 19 2006, 11:34 PM) *
you missunderstood me
Everyone knows that all those high end speakers mentioned are gonna sound nice.The same as the performance car when u first test it as it looks nice it goes hard but months and years of driving will determine its charector.
Its the same with shoes.
I think its alright to trust some of the champs reviews as they hear all the speakers.Any board tech in the shop is gonna make all the high end speakers sound nice.
And if the speaker in question has won any worthy title then thats good enough for me.
With pro racing on the dirt bikes , anything that is labeled a factory racing product gets a instant look in for the non factory riders as they know those parts will perform.
I still agree that listening is good but its not the be all and end all..........zion


I live in a 'rural'ish area, so for me dropping down to a few stereo stores and auditioning gear simply isn't an option. When i finally get around to buying some SQ speakers, i'll be going from advice and reviews of products on here from those that have heard a wide range of high end equipment. I'll make a thread about the sort of sound i'm aiming for from speakers, and get everybody's input. It's all i can do apart from take a massive roadtrip to somewhere that has decent equipment to audition, which is simply not practical. I'll second that listening to speakers on a display board is not the be all and end all, especially for people in my situation.
khay0s
QUOTE (muzzy66 @ Nov 19 2006, 07:46 PM) *
Are you serious?

Would you honestly spend $60,000 on a new car if you weren't able to get a test drive first? I'm sure you wouldn't, and if you would then IMO you either have too much money, or else simply be insane!

A lot of people will fork out more than that for an Evo, for example, without having the chance to drive them first.

Leigh
_Anthony_
how about ferarri with a 2+ year waiting list on the new F430
jas
the dyn home speakers using the new range of home audio drivers are very good and are not a step back from the old versions. I can NOT see how the new car drivers that are based on the new home speakers are going to be a backward step in anyway. Dynaudio have done their research and testing and its not like the new drivers havent been used in audio applications before....the car drivers have been adapted from the home driver units for use in the car.


all in all you either like the dyns sound or you dont...there is no inbetween
pantsonfire
Well the new drivers are in the country. Headover to FHRX website for a look. Interesting to see that they have changed some components on the setups. System 342 now has a 5.7" rather than the old 7". System 362 rather than an 8" now has the 7". Looks like i'll have to upgrade to the system 362 to keep my current doors.


Not much change visually but cant wait to hear some peoples reviews of the sound and comparisons with the old stuff. Hopefully some people can do back to back listens.
Fhrx
People are welcome to pile down here on the weekend and have a listen to them. We'll have the System242 set-up for auditioning and there is a System242GT here also for fiddling with (i.e. they're not on the powered demo display).
Hutch
QUOTE (pantsonfire @ Nov 21 2006, 10:26 PM) *
Well the new drivers are in the country. Headover to FHRX website for a look. Interesting to see that they have changed some components on the setups. System 342 now has a 5.7" rather than the old 7". System 362 rather than an 8" now has the 7". Looks like i'll have to upgrade to the system 362 to keep my current doors.
Not much change visually but cant wait to hear some peoples reviews of the sound and comparisons with the old stuff. Hopefully some people can do back to back listens.


Actually, the System 342 still uses a 7" midbass driver and the 362 uses an 8" midbass driver. Sorry about the confusion. By the middle of next week most Dynaudio dealers will have the new models in stock.
Fhrx
We had quite a successful day here yesterday in relation to auditioning the Dyn's. About fifteen people all up turned up to sit down in the air conditioned audition room and have a blast.

Everyone thus far is extremely impressed with their performance. smile.gif
Shreknos
can you do a quick review for caa marty???

we no your busy, but everyone would really appreciate it
muzzy66
QUOTE (khay0s @ Nov 20 2006, 04:06 AM) *
A lot of people will fork out more than that for an Evo, for example, without having the chance to drive them first.

Leigh


I say they are insane smile.gif
Luke352
Maybe not so with a EVO, but trust me I reckon if you rocked up at your local Lamborghini dealership and said yeah I want a test drive before we go any further with the sale they would probably laugh at you. They might let you have one after you laid down a very large deposit.
sqgator
Back to Dyn342 & Dyn362. Anyone installed a set yet? Review please!!!
jas
how long till the esotar 2 comes out???

6months year???...more???

deciding on splits now so need an update on this driver

if its going to be more than 3 months then im choosing another option other than dynaudio...for now anyway
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