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Billy aka Shakes
ok after recent discussion with the ceo of cactus sounds. and since people say we dont have a big range on SPL products in australia i thought would make a few enquiries with them.

so i am wanting to find out if, their products were available to us in australia would SPL'rs be interested in purchasing their products.

for anyone that wants to know what their gear is like heres a links to their website were you can find out all you want about their gear.

there amps

their subs

only asking so can find out if people are interested in seeing more SPL products available in australia. even though i will continue to use DD myself i know others want more variety and thought i would make the enquiries to see if people would be interested or not.

cheers billy
BlackIce
Cheater Sounds more like it..
wazzab4
I tryed to get some info off him before but no answer.

Yes then do good gear, as for cheater sounds i think thats a bit hard.
Roo
there amps look good, they are meant to be louder then a z1. as for the cheating thing get over it. I could be interested in the amps
ReMiX
Do the batterys in the amps come preinstalled or do you have to install your own?
spoonxxx
looks interesting whats there prices like
SPL_Lancer
LOL, batterys in amps.
Dutchy351
Awsome gear. There batteries look like the boxter batteries
~Sparkles~
Cheater or rule bender...

I personally sould love to see their products available in australia. The more products the more competitive the market becomes and with that hopefully bigger numbers!
mac_man_luke
why are they cheaters? im sure there is a reason your all saying that tongue.gif
master_luke
lol look at the batterys they make, thats awesome

9000amps! Who needs terminals when you can have bus bars!
Billy aka Shakes
havent found out the prices for the amps subs and batteries yet but will keep everyone informed
db nathan
if anyone is interested, i have spoken to christoph at cactus sounds and have distribution pricing which would enable me to bring the product in for you. this is not a commercial plug as i do not carry the line, just an offer if anyone is interested. but bare in mind that most of the cactus gear is quite expensive compared to Treo and DD.

I have attached the Euro retail. Probably double that and it would be landed at your door.
Music Pirate
QUOTE (mac_man_luke @ Feb 15 2007, 06:23 PM) *
why are they cheaters? im sure there is a reason your all saying that tongue.gif



+1 also intrigued as to why everyone is accusing there products of aiding in cheating tongue.gif
db nathan
QUOTE (Music Pirate @ Feb 15 2007, 08:59 PM) *
+1 also intrigued as to why everyone is accusing there products of aiding in cheating tongue.gif


cactus competed a year ago in the finals with battcaps hidden in his amps.
when they were found, he removed them and continued to compete.

he was penalised for the next season with banning from some comps - making it harder for him to get to the finals again.

he managed prior to the incident to hold the record in his class and continues to push barriers.
he may have cheated but was never officially disqualified as a cheat. there is truckloads about this on termpro.com . if you want - you could say that he was pushing the fine line to get the results.

no matter what - there will be fans and ther will be people who label him a cheat. you win some you lose some. his competitors struggle to get near him.

perhaps it is envy that causes his cheat label to stick.
trism
QUOTE (ReMiX @ Feb 15 2007, 06:52 PM) *
Do the batterys in the amps come preinstalled or do you have to install your own?



lol, i get that now, and it makes it sooooo much funnier....

good call remix, good call, thats sig worthy good.gif rofl.gif
db nathan
Check out this link to see Christoph Termpro Stats
wazzab4
I herad it was 2volt lithemiron batterys (you know watt i mean) and he had a few in there to bosst the voltage at the rail in the amp.

Thing was it was not like someone found them he was passed as ok by the judges and then was telling everyone watt he did to bosst the voltage up (watt he thought was a good idea) and someone went and told a judge watt he had done and the said no you could not do this.
If he kept his month shut no one would of know watt was in there not realy a cheat to me.

He then took them out and still won.
db nathan
QUOTE (wazzab4 @ Feb 15 2007, 09:17 PM) *
Thing was it was not like someone found them he was passed as ok by the judges and then was telling everyone watt he did to bosst the voltage up (watt he thought was a good idea) and someone went and told a judge watt he had done and the said no you could not do this.
If he kept his month shut no one would of know watt was in there not realy a cheat to me.

He then took them out and still won.



spot on.

but envious competitors dont see it that way ans still label him a cheat.
DEVINCHY
QUOTE (db nathan @ Feb 15 2007, 09:35 PM) *
if anyone is interested, i have spoken to christoph at cactus sounds and have distribution pricing which would enable me to bring the product in for you. this is not a commercial plug as i do not carry the line, just an offer if anyone is interested. but bare in mind that most of the cactus gear is quite expensive compared to Treo and DD.

I have attached the Euro retail. Probably double that and it would be landed at your door.

thats $2609.72 aud per 10" sub (paper cone say the least) but still they are suppose to be good
db nathan
people buy DD for results. Likewise, Look at Christophs stat page it speaks for itself. But ther is no doubt about it - it is expensive stuff.
ReMiX
I've got no issues with Cristophs passion for the sport, nor to see it in brighter lights .. Who doesnt want to see the numbers get higher and the comps get bigger and better.. BUT; When it comes to blatantly ignoring rules like battery limits, then playing the 'me no speak englaish' card .. Its just plain wrong.

Heres a quote from Wayne Harris
QUOTE (Wayne Harris)
It is hard for me to believe that a World Finals veteran competitor and World Record holder could not know that the modifications in question were an egregious violation of the rules.


He was in a class that CLEARLY states you are allowed 1 (ONE) 12V Battery, He was running 13 (Thirteen) batteries in total. 1 x 12V and 12 x 2V. Giving his amps 18V - Not the class legal 12V.

To me, It wouldnt matter who was cheating - To only penalize Cactus Sounds 100 points for the 2006 season and not do something with a real effect is a joke.

It also doesnt matter who it was cheating - Team Loud, Team Gates, Scotty Owens/Pioneer (Not that any of these teams have cheated).. Cheating is cheating and total removal from the sport should occur.

Just my 0.02+GST.
db nathan
QUOTE (ReMiX @ Feb 15 2007, 10:16 PM) *
I've got no issues with Cristophs passion for the sport, nor to see it in brighter lights .. Who doesnt want to see the numbers get higher and the comps get bigger and better.. BUT; When it comes to blatantly ignoring rules like battery limits, then playing the 'me no speak englaish' card .. Its just plain wrong.

Heres a quote from Wayne Harris
He was in a class that CLEARLY states you are allowed 1 (ONE) 12V Battery, He was running 13 (Thirteen) batteries in total. 1 x 12V and 12 x 2V. Giving his amps 18V - Not the class legal 12V.

To me, It wouldnt matter who was cheating - To only penalize Cactus Sounds 100 points for the 2006 season and not do something with a real effect is a joke.

It also doesnt matter who it was cheating - Team Loud, Team Gates, Scotty Owens/Pioneer (Not that any of these teams have cheated).. Cheating is cheating and total removal from the sport should occur.

Just my 0.02+GST.


I understand where you are coming from and i accept the quote from wayne.

but you cannot deny that even without the battcaps he is a champion.
to this i add that wayne must beleive so too or cactus would have copped a disqualification.
Michae1
Its been done and you are all just flogging a dead horse.

GET OVER IT!

Yes I would like to see this product in Oz, it would be good to have another SPL orientated product, but I think who ever imports it would need to build/sponsor a car in order to actually show people here that the gear is the goods, in particular the amps.

As despite it's success in Europe people like see/touch and feel such products for themselves.
ReMiX
QUOTE (trism @ Feb 15 2007, 08:05 PM) *
lol, i get that now, and it makes it sooooo much funnier....

good call remix, good call, thats sig worthy good.gif rofl.gif



I'm honoured! I'm currently quoted in two peoples signatures.. Two in two days! ohmy.gif
db nathan
QUOTE (Michae1 @ Feb 15 2007, 10:21 PM) *
Yes I would like to see this product in Oz, it would be good to have another SPL orientated product, but I think who ever imports it would need to build/sponsor a car in order to actually show people here that the gear is the goods, in particular the amps.



price compared to a success proven dd is probably not worth it. DD is the best positioned on the market by far.
BlackIce
No its not envy, its straight out cheating. Unless you're telling me it would have been OK for me to fit as many batteries as I could have into that Crown 6000 I had, and said "but its to boost rail voltage". I reakon I could have fitted the equivalent of a 2nd Odyssey 2150 inside that amp.. Wait, no, that would have been cheating 'cos it says no internal power sources for amps in the rules.. and thats why the Drag Queen was banned in dB Drag.

Not to forget the 8mm MDF "OEM equivalent" roof lining and door skins he had. Or his "sound deadener" that was Kittie Hair FG matt in FG resin. Plenty of rule pushing & breaking from Cheater Sounds. There's a reason he was banned from dB Drags last season.

Finally.. there's better amps than his coming into the country, a little birdie told me wink.gif. As for the subs, plenty of equivalents here that are well supported by the importer.. DD and Treo spring to mind.
db nathan
QUOTE (BlackIce @ Feb 16 2007, 08:18 AM) *
No its not envy, its straight out cheating. Unless you're telling me it would have been OK for me to fit as many batteries as I could have into that Crown 6000 I had, and said "but its to boost rail voltage". I reakon I could have fitted the equivalent of a 2nd Odyssey 2150 inside that amp.. Wait, no, that would have been cheating 'cos it says no internal power sources for amps in the rules.. and thats why the Drag Queen was banned in dB Drag.

Not to forget the 8mm MDF "OEM equivalent" roof lining and door skins he had. Or his "sound deadener" that was Kittie Hair FG matt in FG resin. Plenty of rule pushing & breaking from Cheater Sounds. There's a reason he was banned from dB Drags last season.



QUOTE (Michae1 @ Feb 15 2007, 10:21 PM) *
Its been done and you are all just flogging a dead horse.

GET OVER IT!


QUOTE (BlackIce @ Feb 16 2007, 08:18 AM) *
Finally.. there's better amps than his coming into the country, a little birdie told me wink.gif. As for the subs, plenty of equivalents here that are well supported by the importer.. DD and Treo spring to mind.




QUOTE (db nathan @ Feb 15 2007, 11:01 PM) *
price compared to a success proven dd is probably not worth it. DD is the best positioned on the market by far.
Billy aka Shakes
ok guys back on the topic really hey. but from the sounds of it if people are going to complain about a team cheating that doesnt mean the companies product sucks.
CVBASS
QUOTE (SH-00-KU @ Feb 16 2007, 10:36 AM) *
ok guys back on the topic really hey. but from the sounds of it if people are going to complain about a team cheating that doesnt mean the companies product sucks.


I don't think SPL is big enough in aus at the moment for it to be viable to bring the gear in...
Its more expensive than the top range from other well known companies, and there aren't that many people using them...

They probably are good products, but overpriced and with too much controversy behind the name...
Billy aka Shakes
ok then that knocks that idea on the head then
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