Found this while surfing...

http://www.soundlabsgroup.com.au/c/Manger/Manger.html

Anyone know anything about them??

Being flat from 100Hz to 20kHz would mean you'd only need a 1-way setup and tie-into a subwoofer... No crossovers, no phase issues... you'd only need to deal with a single 'speaker' and its direct and reflected waves.... certainly its advantages in theory....

You think its practical for an incar setup??

actually looks a bit yuck below 2kHz. I'd expect it sounds a bit thin amd mechanical at the lower frequencies.

Wouldn't be much good for near-field either.

You should see how much it cost . I'll take jordan driver anytime.

Jordan JXR6

Jordan JX92S

ive heard these @ the CES a few times. They were ok but not spectacular. They mated the drivers with some scanspeak 18w8545 or 18w8535 midbass drivers. Not sure about the cross-over they used. Nice polite sound. Oh these are massive drivers too wouldnt be too easy to fit in the car. The dyn esotar is of similar size and personally i would choose this driver over the manga any day of the week.

now that jordan jxr6 is practically flat!...and only $700AU
WHY are people not using these? has anyone heard them?

I've seen quite a few car in indo use jordan JXR6 driver, usually mated with ribbon tweeter. Some uses the bigger driver too. I think it need some enclosure to be able to do some great result. A magazine i have with me right now, show just that and is in Honda Jazz. I can do some scans if you like to see it .

I can't understand why people are playing with home drivers in the car enviroment?
Companies such as Morel make driver units for some of the worlds leading home speaker companies and then use the information they have to develope some of the worlds best car audio speaker.

Car speakers are developed with specific problems in mind foir example moisture, metal enclosure etc, yet people stick drivers that are designed for a wooden enclosure in a moisture free enviroment in to their cars?

Don't ask me, but it seems the norm there. The challenge will be making a suitable crossover and the like. I think most of this guy usually has a home audio background and when they decide to go into car, the equipment available is just not cutting it and decide to venture into home audio equipment. It's easily doable when labor is really cheap.

While at it, i can scan the article of Honda Jazz with Audison HV Venti and Focal Berrylium

$350 for 1 centre channel in a 3ltr box .......cors

Please do scan it and send me a copy across by email if you would sales@rmaudio.com.au

Thanks

Quite often a custom install calls for mounting drivers (most often mids) in small sealed enclosures, precious few car audio mids are designed for this while almost all home audio drivers are, that's why we use home audio drivers.

There's a few car audio drivers that are totally unsutable for door mounting as well (exposed voicecoils anyone?)

^^ I was thinking the same thing. Whilst Car Audio has given us some wonderful subs, tweeters, midbass and midwoofers, it is quite difficult to find a proper midbass.

The 'perfect' speaker "out of the box" (requires only a little tuning) for the midrange has always been something that is as close to flat as possible down to around 150Hz. If it goes upwards of 6-7kHz, even better. Its the ultimate point-source speaker.

At this stage, such a speaker in the Car Audio world is almost non-existant.

Plus, dont forget that Scanspeak is a Car-audio company, and a lot of their drivers are untreated paper cones....

i ran home audio tweeters in my car for 2 years and no problems, the only tweeter comparable was the Supremo and even then i didnt think it sounded as good, not without alot of work (custom passives) and was quite alot more money too!

the only tweeter that compared that you had the opportunity to listen to that is fudd

and where would one buy such a product like this phil???

It's an example not a sales pitch.

Dynaudio make great drivers for car audio. Their "home" speakers (in their box, with their crossovers) are terrible(IMO).

I don't think there's a problem with using 'home' speakers in a car, as any good speaker will work in a car quite well. If a bit of moisture is going to ruin the speaker, get a better speaker or too bad if you live close to the equator, unless you have climate controlled listening room that is...

I have a pair of JXR6's (possibly) going into my car.

As promised, JXR6 in Honda Jazz!!

Might want to zoom in.
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This is a bit off topic, but next time you are near the city, perhaps you should drop in on Carlton Audio on Lygon St and ask to have a listen to some 52SE's or something similar. I think perhaps you may have heard some of the old 'Dyns' built by Scan Audio back in the day that had no real connection with Dynaudio apart from using their drive units.

Those ribbons are huge, and those mids are tiny. If that gives a linear output whilst still staging nicely, it'd be quite an achievement. Ausome all round

I quite like the Dyn's home speakers. But to my taste i prefer the Focus 220 and the Contour range over the Audience (well pricing is also different...). The Focus for its better midbass presence and the Contour as the midrange is absolutely stunning; clean, open and smooth.

But in home i prefer a livelier sound which is why i'm a Bowers & Wilkins fan

Yikes, that's some big build outs!

CDT have a new driver, a 2" "full range". I heard them when I was in the USA last year.

We've got some coming soon, I'm keen to try them in my car. Depending on crossover and power they're good for 150-20k.

Phil

A mate from work who used to own/operate his own recording studio has the same opinion, he reckons all the DYN home audio stuff sound like someone is holding a pillow over them. He has never heard any of there car equipment though.

If you work in a recording studio, you should be using near-field monitors, not Dyn home units. Right tool for the job.

Home audio speakers are totally different as they are used in the far field.

Dyn has never been a speaker company that produces accuracy in their home lines. They aim for enjoyment (and yes, there is a difference).

If you want accuracy, try some of their near-field monitors.

Did I say he was using them in a studio...but obviously being a bit of a sound nut he had alot of experience and opinions on speakers outside of the studio..

Sorry again for OT, I tried their "2.4" model about 18 months ago.
$10k+ for yuck - my car sounds better.