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KungFucius
OK my system.


Head Unit Pioneer DEH-P5750MP

Amps Cadence Z8000(subs), JL Audio A2150(Kickers)

Wiring Stinger Pro 4Ga, Stinger Nitro RCAs

Speakers DUB240 4", Kicker SS56.2 Comps

Sub Cadence UD154H in 3.4 CuF ported box

What do y'all think.

BTW This is all in a '91 Daihatsu Feroza
HISPL
QUOTE (KungFucius @ Apr 4 2007, 12:15 PM) *
OK my system.


Head Unit Pioneer DEH-P5750MP

Amps Cadence Z8000(subs), JL Audio A2150(Kickers)

Wiring Stinger Pro 4Ga, Stinger Nitro RCAs

Speakers DUB240 4", Kicker SS56.2 Comps

Subs Aerpro 12" Slimline, JVC 10" Strobo

What do y'all think.

BTW This is all in a '91 Daihatsu Feroza


Reading the list it looks like a god aweful mix, but heu if you like more power to ya!

I wouldn't put it in my car that is for sure!
Wh33lzz
I had a JVC 10 strobo.

Even in the right box it wasn't a very good SQ sub, nor was it loud.

Havent heard the kickers or any of the others either. So cant really comment.

Cabling and amps sound good, I know JL make some nice amps, not sure about cadence tho.

You might want to consider some sound deadening, especially in your doors (if this is where the kickers are) If you havent already used it, it should make a fairly large improvement to SQ.
KungFucius
hehe the strobo is mainly for show... i just like watching it smile.gif

and the kickers are in the back panel bit thingies..

HISPL... it may look like a really bad mix but it actually sounds really good for what it is... the one thing i DO need to upgrade is my subs.. >.>
Wh33lzz
For SQ I'd ditch the 4's move the Kicker splits into the front doors, deaden the crap out of them, put the tweets either in the dash, a pillars or kicks, (just play with angles and locations until you are happy) and go with a single 10 or 12 inch sub, in the right sized sealed box.

With some tuning, you should be able to improve your SQ condsiderably.
Riley.
not to sound mean here but there is "sounding good" and "sounding good" sure your car might sound like the bees knees to you....but to alot of people on there sounding good is more than just your opinion

i would try to listen to someones car who competes well in CAASQ...use that as a reference.....but for all i know it could sound good

from what i can gather, you are running the 4" up front and two different size subs....i would change this if i were you....try to get the kickers (or any 6 - 6.5" splits) up front and a single sub

but at the end of the day what you have to remember is if your car sounds good to you - that is all that really matters
KungFucius
ok.. how do SQ comps work exactly?
Wh33lzz
Check out the QLD section in the CAASQ forum and look for the next SQ meet there, just rock on up, be friendly and check it out. Spectators are always welcome.

Most people are more than happy to let you listen to their cars, and may even listen to yours and offer some tips for improvement.

CAASQ guys are a great bunch of people.
KungFucius
by sounds good i mean loud and clear
HooDs
QUOTE (Wh33lzz @ Apr 4 2007, 01:02 PM) *
CAASQ guys are a great bunch of people.




Most people.



I'm a prick.



Click the link in my sig.
Pulse-R
SQ has been defined as "The ability of a system to reproduce sound with the clarity and accuracy of the recording/mastering engineers original intention".

In the case of most "Audiophile" recordings, this is a live performance with exact stage positioning and realistic acoustic qualities of each instrument.

SQ has also been defined as "What makes you happy".
Riley.
yeah take your pick from the above two definitions.....for competing you are gonna (might) have to compromise a bit for the first one

if you want to know how it works.....check out the CAASQ section and look at the rules, scoresheet, etc.....you could also come to a test and tune if we get one orgainised where a judge will show you how a comp works by basically judging your system
KGB
LOL, just saw the votes... I gave you 3 points for your HU and wiring.
Generally speaking you want the main sound at the front (splits) instead of behind you - would you go to a concert and listen to the music with your back towards the stage?
Two completely different subs is a strange move as well. Save some space and improve SQ at the same time and go with one sub.

As already said, try and rock up to a CAASQ comp if you can, its amazing how happy you can be with a setup until you hear something better and get blown away. Its happened to me several times with home audio/home theatre as well as car audio and I expect it will happen again!
KungFucius
QUOTE (KGB @ Apr 9 2007, 06:35 PM) *
LOL, just saw the votes... I gave you 3 points for your HU and wiring.
Generally speaking you want the main sound at the front (splits) instead of behind you - would you go to a concert and listen to the music with your back towards the stage?
Two completely different subs is a strange move as well. Save some space and improve SQ at the same time and go with one sub.

As already said, try and rock up to a CAASQ comp if you can, its amazing how happy you can be with a setup until you hear something better and get blown away. Its happened to me several times with home audio/home theatre as well as car audio and I expect it will happen again!



ive designed my system so that it sounds better standing right at the back of the car with the back door open... unless thats a bad thing??


but im still open to suggestions... OO by the way, i now have a Cadence UD154H in a rudimentary gigantic ported box biggrin.gif so its just the 1 15" now..
or if i want to keep my strobo to look at i can have them both going
RMA
You need someone to work through your system with you to sort it out.



Try one of the following:

Autobarn Beenleigh

Autobarn Capalaba

Complete Car Sound Enoggera

Northfield Marooka

Car Tunes - Southport



They all have a good name and should be able to put you on track heading the right way.



Its not that your not on track now, its just that you may be on the track facing the wrong way and that light at the end of the tunnel is the head light of an on coming train.
2LOUD2OLD
Ha ha, i'm curious, who voted "No Nothing at all"

Now I am no expert on SQ but I can quite definitively say that your system in no way represents an SQ system. First of all a very important feature of car audio is for it to sound its best when you are sitting in the front of the car because that is generally where you spend most of your time, not standing behind it.
Is that JL amp supposed to be the e2150? cos that is the model I have, it is quite a nice amp and I will recomend it to anyone. If you take the advice of the people on this forum, I am quite certain that even with the gear you have, which isnt all that bad, you could get a much better sound.
Installation is the key. Move the splits to the front doors, add some sound deadening, Oh and get rid of the strobo!
KungFucius
QUOTE (2LOUD2OLD @ Apr 13 2007, 01:32 PM) *
Ha ha, i'm curious, who voted "No Nothing at all"

Now I am no expert on SQ but I can quite definitively say that your system in no way represents an SQ system. First of all a very important feature of car audio is for it to sound its best when you are sitting in the front of the car because that is generally where you spend most of your time, not standing behind it.
Is that JL amp supposed to be the e2150? cos that is the model I have, it is quite a nice amp and I will recomend it to anyone. If you take the advice of the people on this forum, I am quite certain that even with the gear you have, which isnt all that bad, you could get a much better sound.
Installation is the key. Move the splits to the front doors, add some sound deadening, Oh and get rid of the strobo!


no my amp is the JL A2150, full range stereo amplifer.

the strobo is now gone sad.gif .. but like i said up there ^^ i now have my cadence UD15 in its huge box.

and if you were in my position you really wouldnt want to change the position of the splits. there would be an annoying amount of screwing around cutting things, filling other things, etc etc that i just do not have the time for at the moment. and also with the acoustics in my car there, IMO, wouldnt be much of a difference in the sound of the splits
lukiez
i gave it 1, mainly from your remark that it sounds good standing behind the car! "screwing around cutting things, filling other things, etc etc" is what you have to do if you want your car to be worthy of any sound quality at all, i have 4inch in the front and they are shocking. to me sound quality is from the front stage, not smacking into the back of your head, anyway just my opinion smile.gif
Riley.
sound quality relates alot to CAASQ in terms of what we would call good SQ

if you want your car to sound good from the back.....i would move your posts to the general section and/or SPL section
KGB
QUOTE (lukiez @ Apr 23 2007, 04:16 PM) *
i gave it 1, mainly from your remark that it sounds good standing behind the car! "screwing around cutting things, filling other things, etc etc" is what you have to do if you want your car to be worthy of any sound quality at all, i have 4inch in the front and they are shocking. to me sound quality is from the front stage, not smacking into the back of your head, anyway just my opinion smile.gif


Agreed. Cars are pretty bad as a basis for a good sounding stereo so you need to put the effort into installation if you want it to sound good. It may sound fine to you now, but I guarantee you will be blown away if you can take the time to set it up properly. I have owned cars with just a headunit and rear 6x9s in the past and the difference with a good front stage is like night and day.

Care to elaborate why you like to stand behind you car with the doors open and the music playing? Most people use their cars for driving, and usually sit in the front. tongue.gif smile.gif
gonebust
I gave it a 1 aswell. however if your happy with the way things sound then leave it and leave this site coz we WILL hurt your wallet! lol
KungFucius
QUOTE (KGB @ Apr 26 2007, 11:38 AM) *
Agreed. Cars are pretty bad as a basis for a good sounding stereo so you need to put the effort into installation if you want it to sound good. It may sound fine to you now, but I guarantee you will be blown away if you can take the time to set it up properly. I have owned cars with just a headunit and rear 6x9s in the past and the difference with a good front stage is like night and day.

Care to elaborate why you like to stand behind you car with the doors open and the music playing? Most people use their cars for driving, and usually sit in the front. tongue.gif smile.gif






i like watching all my flashy lights biggrin.gif and you cant see them from the front seats... well they are the only seats now, but still.



and its just the back door that i have open
Razor2323
i voted one as for sq ive had plenty of cars that have had 4" in the front and ... as said above it's like night and day , now im not as experienced as others on here ive asked for plenty of help , you said you want loud and clear up front is the winner ,, but it all depends when you have the time ,, when you do i suggest you ask around the installation section
lina
QUOTE (HISPL @ Apr 4 2007, 10:29 PM) *
Reading the list it looks like a god aweful mix, but heu if you like more power to ya!

I wouldn't put it in my car that is for sure!


Neither do I.
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