Well today was a good day, other than the morning rain.

But with the help of a few people, I had my car tuned nicely,
The day went smoothly without a hitch, thanks to the planning of the FHRX Crew, who ever was cooking the sausages, a BIG Thank you as it was the only thing keeping me alive with only 3 hours sleep.

Judging at this round was more strict and feedback was excellent, but it never seems to amaze me that I get one issue fixed and another few crop up.
anyway it was a good result all round

Congratulations to Jono for 1st place, but what i would like to know is what happened the the Rainbow Brothers (Antony and Blake)

Cannot wait to see the pics that were taken

Only downside is that i needed to wait till near the end to have my car judged, if only there was a way of speeding it up

Not sure what to do about speeding the judging process up just yet. Obviously we cannot use two separate teams judging half of the class each because that would be a disaster. We could perhaps kick off AM/ST earlier?

The person cooking the lunch just happened to be my wife Christie. Thanks babe.

I'll get the photos up ASAP and I'll forward the results onto Marc so he can update the leaderboard.

Despite the weather doing it's best to keep people away, I thought it was another good turn out of friendly competition and I have to say I enjoyed talking to a lot of audio enthusiasts yet again. Despite the judging being a bit more stringent today, I think most people came away with some decent feedback on how to improve for round 3.

Can we expect round 3 to be in another 4 weeks time Marty?

Top food and organisation again

Was great nabbing those undercover tables and such.


Had lots of fun, setting up the car with a lot of weird looks hehe but was worth while. Cept me having wet shoes, URGH so uncomfortable!!!!

Round 3, not sure what date that owuld be as we are now like 3 weeks infront of VIC.

Was very happy with the audio result, looking forward to a few more tweaks. Ill upload pictures later on

Congrats to all the winners,

Cheers

Jack (Deftone)

well done to all, it was a great day.

sure shocked alot of people with the fact i was running stock 4s

next round should be fun indeed...alot of people shocked at the difference in scores from last round, but as everyone was informed, the judging was done slightly different this round, so dont compare rd 1 and 2, wait, and compare 2 and 3...

well done jono, on the 1st place, that should keep you up the pointy end



thanks to Marty and the rest of the FHRX guys for a great day

Matt

Here is the first batch of photos.

Thanks to all of you who allowed me to listen to their systems it is much appreciated.

I am Julius with the red ferrari hat and blue hoody.

Again, great day Marty

A-ha! He posts!

well Marty,

Please say Thank you to your wife for me, she is a lovely cook.

Top day, made better by a great turn out and great people, im yet to meet a jerk in NSW SQ!

Thanks to Marty and all the judges, to Christy the fantastic cook, and to everyone for coming. If things keep going this well NSW will be a serious force to be reconded with at nationals.

What a day!

With a little help from Nath last night, I managed to get my new boot floor and amp racks in and the basic wiring arranged... but after hours of working in the cold, darknessI still knew there were was little chance that i'd have my system up and running in time to be judged.

Before I arrived, I made up my mind that I would do whatever it took to get my system up and running and in a state worthy of competition. It took three hours of non stop breaking my back in the rain (again), but there was nothing more satisfying then the feeling when that final key was turned, and there was sound!

I didn't get to properly set up the sub, and also found out later that my L/R mid-bass drivers were reversed - but to be honest I was just so happy that all of the hard work proved worth it in the end. Today marked the first day in about two years that I've had a complete system fully functioning in my car, and it was great to know that despite the tougher judging I improved significantly over my round 1 score and position.

Even in raw tune my car was sounding quite good, and I have to give full credit to the other guys who competed - there was some seriously good sounding cars.

It's absolute great to see NSW really making a huge move in the right direction, and a lot of that should be credited to the organisers and helpers - it was much appreciated.

I have to say always that it was great to see the judges really clamp down much tighter this time around. I was given some good feedback from both judges and competitors and have since made a couple of significant improvements to the car.

On the whole it was cloudy and raining, and i was running off one sausage and 2 1/2 hours of sleep all day - but it was still the most enjoyable event for me so far.

Cheers to all who made it that way, and with luck we will have ourseves some serious representatives for the nationals.

we would of had it wired up all of last night if we didnt get stuck with my heap ya junk

YAY thanks to all teh judges and all who came in such cruddy weather. good sausages again. top work

Hi dice. "Just a Trawler" wasnt it? hope u enjoyed round 2 as much as i did. COZ I AM A WINNAR!!!! 1st place for me! id liek to thank Antony and Rick and Jack for giving/lending me time, components and advice.

i will post more later.

Hijacked!

Awesome day, rain didn't really dampen my enthusiasm, I was so worried about my system before actually competing, and all for nothing, the feedback from the judges was great, and not having competed in round 1 , knowing that the judging was tougher this time makes my result all the more rewarding.
Thanks for the great sausages Christie, I think I ate like 8 of them...

Also thanks to Marty and his crew for running such a slick comp in such ordinary conditions, and helping to make CAASQ NSW such a great event to attend.

Looking forward to the next one!! If I can get the changes I need done in time should be interesting..

good to hear you had fun Mark,

now finish those pods so you can enter in AM Show

Sounds like another great day was had by all

Congratulations on your win Jono .... a fantastic result considering all the changes you've had to make since round 1 .... well done!

What a Great turnout, even with the crummy weather! Made sure the Judging was consistant throughout the day, hope you all enjoyed the constructive feedback to improve our systems for the better, we want to get NSW ready for the nationals late in the year, to give the rest of the states a run for their money

Yup, the Feedback was extremely helpful

well done jono.....

post up the results

These are the points that will be added to the leaderboard:

Amateur Show Round 2 2007
30 points - Peter Pain ( Subaru WRX )
28 points - Jack Chauvel (Holden Commodore) - Changed from AM/ST
26 points - Jack Horrocks ( Daihatsu Sirion )
24 points - Matthew Judge ( Mitsubishi Magna )

Amateur Street Round 2 2007
30 points - Jonathan Hadley ( Holden HZ )
28 points - Craig Paddon (Skyline)
26 points - Ben Chong (Astra)
24 points - Chris Vidler (Ford FTP)
22 points - Peter Harlovic (Ford Laser)
20 points - Nathan Vlotis (Chrysler Valiant)
18 points - Rick Formosa (Holden Nova)
16 points - Anmol Sagar (Nissan Pulsar)
14 points - Blake Roberts (Holden Commodore)
12 points - Brad Thurlow (Holden Commodore)
10 points - Garfield McGuinness (Honda Prelude)
9 points - Matt Towns (Toyota Corolla)
8 points - Kris Wilson (Mazda 3)
7 points - Daniel Hobson (Honda Civic)
6 points - Mark Wheeler (Holden Commodore)
5 points - Antony Hughes (Holden Commodore)
4 points - Anthony Walsh (Holden Rodeo)
3 points - John Cross (Toyota Corolla)

Pro Show Round 2 2007
30 points - Edwin Low ( Subaru WRX )
28 points - Shane Dunn ( Mitsubishi 380 )
26 points - Paul Con ( Mitsubishi Lancer )

Pro Street Round 2 2007
30 points - Marty Price ( Nissan 200SX )
28 points - Joel Cheesman ( Nissan Pulsar )
26 points - Paul Young ( Mazda 3 )

who had the loudest car on the day? and won that SPL meter thing.

16 points - Anmol Sagar (Nissan Pulsar)

I believe with a 138.8db (i know it was 138 )

My Pics here they are, if you want to see some more head over to my thread!

http://www.mobileelectronics.com.au/forums...7499&st=220













Cheers

Another well run event. And I'm most happy, that even with the tougher judging I managed to pick up 10 points from round 1.

As for Am Street judging, starting it earlier is probably a very good idea, as winter rolls round it'll be getting dark sooner, and due to my travel times, I don't get a chance to stay afterwards, and always run off after the presentations - it's not that I'm anti-social. I had a dinner at 6 in Parramatta to get to.

Also how is it organised, alphabetical, in order of registration? randomly?

Leaderboard updated.

What a turnout! Awesome to see

Wow, huge changes to the standings

guys n gals it was another great day. aside from the weather and em forgetting my jumper. after round 1 i had to change my tweets my mids and my sub amp which totally changed my tuning. and also tweet positioning had to be changed. so i basically started from scratch.

i am very happy with the results. its a good feeling thats for sure. im in it for sound tho not FOR THE WIN. listened to alot of cars which broadend my view of sound a whole lot more. there is still alot more to come.

my only prob is i didnt get much feedback. the judges only had one thing to tell me and not many ppl said anything other than "AWESOME!"

this was good. But now i realise i dont have much to go off coming into round 3. i will continue to tune tweak and also finish more of the install.

hopefully the weather is finer. and im looking fwd to see eager faces of fellow caraudio enthusiats its certainly a big buzz all day. i have to say the trophy sitting on my passenger seat both distracted me and kept me pumped all the way home.

congrats to all the other winners and competitors. there was a big shuffle around in points this time round. i believe this keeps it all exciting til the end.

Yeah, you'll see a few posts above we're actually scratching our heads trying to nut out a way of judging faster (the sound offs are only getting bigger) but while still spending a little longer with each competitor chatting to them about their system.

One idea I did have is to use separate judges for different sections. For example, we'll get a pair to judge safety, one pair to judge the sound and one pair to judge the install quality (for the show classes). That way we can kill two to three birds with one stone (so to speak).

we used to have a seperate safety judge....i dont think it really speeded it up to be honest

wow thats a huge turnout especially for am street! send some up this way

The problem is the high amount of competitors in AM Street

The way to go would be perhaps find someone who would be willing to hit all the AM street cars up in a run, they always man the driver's seat and then have say 2 people who can swap in for passenger duties, have a specified lunch time and back to it after that.

That is if most cars have have their Time Correction setup, which most seem to do.

I think the show part would be good, but at the same time there isnt as many of us around.

Perhaps at the start of the day, when people register we can get people to sign on the sheet when they have to leave and they can be judged first or closer so its not at the end of the day.

But yes AM street guys, they certainly rock up in abundance.

Sadly we cannot have separate teams of judges doing the same class. It just wouldn't be consistant nor fair.

However, we could start judging a little earlier on AM/ST because people tend to get there from seven onwards.

Riley, the turn out would have been much larger if it didn't rain!

Fair enough, i spose just need to judge as soon as the first people register!

And if they want to tune, turn up @ 5am haha!

I suppose we always need the one judge to do the drivers side as well? Because i know in my car its pretty well TA'd for the drivers seat, and the passenger gets blocked from my right tweeter when sitting in there which could efffect results i spose.

Was nice to meet you too Deftone, and many of the of the other guys aswell.
Was a pleasure chatting technical with Marty too, it's always good to get as much tech knowledge as possible from the more experienced guys/competitors, helps us new guys to become a bit more competitive.

+1 for starting AM ST judging a little earlier, hopefully it will help out with finishing earlier and getting cars through the judging process quicker, primarily for the guys with a big drive home.
Personally I didnt mind waiting, gave us all a chance to tune, socialise and build up a bit of anticipation.

Defty- Pretty sure am street and show are only judged from the drivers seat anyway, so TA'ing for that position is desirable. Wont negatively affect your results unless you go pro.

Shoulda had a listen to ur car Jono, it must have sounded sweet...

Ah yep but i mean if judges take turns in the drivers seat? I dunno i dont watch the judges all day was just a thought that came across cuz i noticed that both judges took a turn in my drivers seat when they judged my car which was lucky!!!

You will get a chance, that thing sounds good most times you get in it. Just make sure your listening for the faults to please the man!

That would be me i got 138.8.

Quote from the judges while giving me feedback "you dont have a sub do you, coz we couldn't hear it"

hahahahaha cracks me up.



Was a good day, looking forward to next round!

I'd hazzard a guess and say it was turned down a lot more for the SQ comp than when you were burping it? I have five different pre-set bass levels in my car. One for flat RTA, one for SQ comps and three for depending on what mood i'm in and what genre of music I'm listening too.

mine was opposite, i had bass but it was wayyy too boomy

Been there and done that once too.

That was me at the first comp with my tweets ok

Now my sub bass is ok and my tweets to high

Damn ends of the scale,

Its so easy to show someone the sound and forgot to change the settings back.

Oops1

The same judge should always mark from the drivers seat in every car in AM/ST. However they do swap around every so often because they're actually interested in hearing the car from both sides (remember they're there to enjoy the day too).

So you will see them swap around every so often but so far as the rules go; the same judge should always mark each car from the drivers seat.

i dont think this was the case on saturday tho marty

also, in regards to the dates, and the other thread, i PMed you a day that i couldnt make it, but have forgotten what it was short of going to look it up agian, would u be able to PM me back (if u still have it?)

ta.

Oh okay. I’ve asked the judges for AM/ST (Hype_Sti & db_Bloke) to come along as soon as possible to answer this claim. I was not around the AM/ST judging enough to give an accurate reply I'm afraid mate. If they did swap then this will be rectified for the next round.



It was 2nd, 3rd, 4th of June that you couldn't make it.

also, i suggest some have their math skills tested

but all in all very good day (except the stupid birds)

A very interesting result... I personally found my car was if anything significantly brighter in the top end then yours was, and yet I scored an 8 for highs and recieved no criticism at all on that area.

After hearing your car I have absolutely no idea how it could have been accused of having too much treble... yes there was a noticable peak at a certain freqency (seemed around 8k-10k) but as far as overall tweeter level goes I think it could have actually used a touch of a lift if anything.

That is, assuming your cars tune wasn't changed between it being judged and me listening to it.

Funilly enough I also thought it had alot more treble when I heard it at round one compared to this time around, and yet the first time from memory there was no criticism at all at your top end.

I guess we can only put it down to changes in judging technique between the rounds?

No complaints at all about how my own car was judged. My sub level was pracitcally non-existent, my left and right mid-bass drivers were were wired the wrong way around and the overall linearity wassn't quite where it it was before adding the sub in (didnt get the time to re-tune it). I think my judging sheet reflected these weaknesses as well as the cars strengths on the day well.

I agree, but there is more to treble than just level, that level needs to display detail and high resolution or yeah, you get scored down.

I suffered from the same thing, my highs needed a little less level.. or my mids needed more, or both, but in reality, if they had more detail, as yours obviously do Muzzy, they would porobably get scored a little better. I scored a 7 for mine, woulda been 8 I was told if the level was lower, and linearity was 6, also a 7 if my highs were lower.

So theres 2 points just for twisting a dial back by 1, or maybe bringing up mid bass/mids or many other possible combinations.

Thats what makes this such a challenge.. and comparing can be difficult in those circumstances.

Cool Mark....How is the other project coming along?

nicely, VJ, organised the coiling today, gonna coil a length see how many I get..

Nice, so by the weekend ?

After some good time 'reference' listening to my home speakers and head phones I went back out into my car with the intention of going some damage.

Several hours later of tuning, and I think the car is 90% ready for round three when ever it may come. May indeed hold off the sub amp upgrade after all becasue considering the way the car sounds right now it'd be an unecessary waste of money.

Yeah i suppose, i definately can find my highs a bit overbearing sometimes and a bit peaky, however i can see how in specific songs which are being used for judging to test that range, can easily overpower the weaker points in my system. After a long listen with Matt i think we've found the major weakness in the HSK's, they just cant play that complicated midbass & midrange clearly it just gets a bit overwhelming, perhaps going active might fix this a bit more, we'll see.

Im absolutely stoked with how its sounding at the moment, you have to pry me out of the car for meals! Rick adjusted the tweets down a bit for me and yeah im loving it THANKS RICK!

Thanks to all those who spent time having a listning, its fantastic getting feedback inbetween rounds

Cheers!

Jack