I have just received the following communication from Morel and thought that there may be some dedicated Morel users who would be interested in reading this.

As a result of your tremndous efforts and dedication of the Morel network around the world, the Elate series has become an icon in our product range. The time has come to release an exclusive limited edition as a celebration of this sucess.

The configuration of the Elate 6 LIMITED EDITION will be as follows-Elate 6" woofer with an extended voice coil and a new inverted cone for deeper midbass and higher power handling. The Uniflow chassis will also have a new finish that will match the tweeter, midrange, and crossover.[/size]

Elate tweeter - A new tweeter with a new magnet system and lower resonance point. It will perform similarly to the piccolo.

Elate midrange - Based on the CDM-88 midrange with a new faceplate and smaller diameter for easier installation.[/size]

Elate 3way crossover - Same design as the Accuset MX33.3 but with Mundorf components and matching finish.

[size=2]This amazing system will be presented in a beautiful wooden box that our industry has never seen before and will be numbered and signed by Morel's president, Meir Mordechai.

All of the components will be supplied with a birth certificate and will be match paired for optimal performance.

Production will be limited to 750 pieces worldwide and all orders will be accepted on a first come first served basis

The price for these truely amazing and strictly limited speakers will be $2,329
Anyone interested should contact R.M. Audio Australia

Got piccies? They sound very tasty, though they definately have a steep price to them, that I'm sure they're worth.

There are no pics as yet as soon as I have some I will post them but these are a ways off yet.

Yea thats cool, I don't want to seem pushy, but I bet they will look awesome, awesome enough to match their pricetag

Sounds extremely interesting... but for that price it'd wanna be better then the Supremo's?

They are promising something very very special.

what kind of power handling would they have running through the passive crossover?

100w? 200w?

does the crossover allow for biamping? (or possibly even tri amping)

This sounds extremely interesting, I have a taste for rare items ... when you say "very very special" does this mean performance or the fact there will be 750 worldwide?
How would they theoretically compare to the supremo set?

If you read the post slowly you will find all the answers.

These will be hand built limited production higher power, special cones, special finish and the tweeters will rival the Supremo's and all speakers will be matched pairs.

Sorry Phil you misunderstood me,
I'm not trying to make you repeat everything twice. Sorry for the question in long form -> If known I wanted to know the Elate limited edition set compared to the Supremo set including the woofer with regards to performance in sound.
As I read in the first post the tweeters will perform similary to the piccolo, however doesnt mention the midwoofer for comparison which would tell me it isn't quite the standard (producing sound) of the supremo woofer though higher than the standard elate series.

Is my assumption correct or would it be fair to say they are on par with the supremo set (tweeter and midwoofer)?

Reason I ask is if they are on par then the price tag for the elates 6 LE doesnt seem steep to me.

Ok, so I had a poke on the morel websight. so they are biampable and have a power handling of 200w.

So now I am interested, can you promise me they won't release a supremo 3 way limited edition set phil? ><

thats the standard elates hens, not the SE.

im guessing they would sound quite nice though. wonder if any sets will make it into aus.

Yeah, I know its the standard, but Phil has yet to say otherwise, so for now I'll assume the on paper specs are similar.

he mentions there higher power handling, so more then the 200 the elates have currently. the tweeter performs similar to the piccolo, which is diffrent to the MT23 the elates come with, so the spec are somewhat diffrent.

Oh... how long are we talking about? I am sort of shopping around at the moment...

The speakers will be more powerful than the current production model so over 100 RMS.

Beyond that we can assume they will be tri-ampable like the current Elate crossover.

This is a relative new project and they have not released any details beyond that.

These are going to be re engineered mid bass drivers I am assuming that they will offer major gains over the standard Elate drivers and be something like a Supremo Midbass but totally different.



The exciting thing to me is that these will never be seen in mass, this is a short run highly modified system using the very best of the best.

No don't assume they are the slightest bit the same.

• The power handling will be much higher
• The voice coil will be larger (higher).
• X-Max will increase from 3 to 6mm !
• The cone will be an inverted cone for deeper bass, sound wise it will be totally different to the current Elate SW6 or Supremo SW6
• The tweeters will be different, the factory have indicated maybe even better than the SUPREMO
• The mid range driver will be re engineered.
• The crossover will have much higher grade components.
• All components will be matched pairs.
  
  So I guess they are much the same

Morel have just given me an ETA for dispatch from Israel of early August.

For those that are thinking "Maybe when they arrive..." I can tell you now that we expect the entire order to be presold prior to the product even being close to dispatch from Israel.

One set will be staying with me for my personal collection and I am only looking at bringing in a very small quantity beyond that.

If everyone of MEA's 15,822 members donates 15cents my way I think I can afford a set- my maths isnt really up to scratch. Hell I will drive to the Nationals so y'all can have a listen
Hit me with a PM for donation details

Cheers,
Damon

Well I was just over at another Forum and a guy was mentioning a conversation his mate had with one of the Morel Engineers at CES 2007 and it went along the line that Morel themselves consider the Elate series to be the better sounding set in particular the tweeter, and that the Supremo set was designed with the US market in mind, mainly a bright tweeter etc.. with the Elate having a more full, pleasent and warm sound.

Anyway guys I'm not trying to start a heated convo, just trying to provide some insite as to maybe why Morel is doing a Elate LE and not Supremo LE

Sounds like the mate of a mate on the other forum is on drugs to me.



Absolute BS is all I can say, I talk with the engineers and developement team on a regular basis.



Supremo Midbass are more mellow than the Elates, Marty at FHRX has used both and he will testify to this. Supremo tweeters are a far more dynamic speaker and as far as being bright if installed correctly - no, but if installed incorrectly - yes, you could make them bright.

They certainly are not the "prozac" coma sound of say the Dyn (but many do like that sound).

The speakers we are talking of in the Signature series the likes of have never been seen in any Morel product to date.

wow the new set sounds like it would lots of fun

I sure hope somebody in the Brisbane region gets a set, as I would love to have a listen to them. Though I definately won't be getting a set, they are out of my price range for the next 5 years

sell you head unit and amps....then you will be able to afford them

Lol, then I won't have a source to play them from

It's not about playing with them.. just keep them in original packaging, to look at them sell them for a profit later.

Or just to look at them period lol.

Dyns have a coma sound? Now who's installing things incorrectly...

OH WAIT it was marketing bs... Gotcha.

Keep the slander of other brands to yourself Phil.

Slander?
Get of the grass!
I am entitled to an opinion, I am in no way saying there is anything wrong with the product, some like the Dyn sound some don't just as some like Morel or Hertz and I am sure just as many don't.

Personally I find and many people I know have expressed the opinion that the tweeters were just a little too lay back for them and one such person coined the phrase I used above. Now there are those who like the sound and those who dont, there are those that like Supremo tweeters and those that thoroughly dislike them for being in "their view" too bright.



By all means disagree with me, even you are entitled to an opinion.

If what I have said is slander then you better apply the rule even handedly; get in there and do something about those people who have said that Morel have a weak mid bass kick or that the Hertz HT25 tweeter is too bright and scratchy.

You really need to lighten up, if you think I am wrong refer my post to Marc or Dan and if they say so I will retract it.

Dyn are and I guess will more than likely always be an EXCELLENT product, just dont expect them to be everyones cuppa, because I sure as hell dont expect Morel to Hertz or Audison to be everyones cuppa either.

Most likely but thought I'd throw it out there as I did think it was a rather interesting comment.

Yep like me, as youve said DYN although a great product and I'd always recommend them to people, to have a listen too, to me there not a very interesting speaker to listen to, rather muted and excessively smoothed over IMO, but yet I'm not a fan of a Focal brightness either, so go figure lol... but I will admit to never having had a very long listen to some in a car just a couple of short incar listens and plenty of demo board time....LOL

dyns do tend to sound a little more mellow than most speaker sets.



certain brands tend to have distinctive sounds like dyns, focals, mbq.



after hearing a few supremo tweeter setups i would go far as to say that this tweeter is more lively than the dynaudio tweeter.

The point was not that you arent allowed an opinion, but that you should not voice a negative one towards other brands, being a distributor.

See here if you need any more clarification:
http://www.mobileelectronics.com.au/forums...showtopic=83023



EDIT: I didnt report the post because I think putting you on permanent ban may be a little harsh. However, that said, thinking before posting would be a great idea.

For goodness sake, if Dan or Marc feels a ban is in order then by all means it is their right to do it or request I edit / deleate the post.

Now if you have nothing to contribute to this thread which is on ELATE SIGNATURE SERIES take a hike!

I-M-P-O-R-T-A-N-T

U-P-D-A-T-E



RMA has just negotiated special "Pre Release, Pre Pay" pricing on the new Signature Series.



Put simply anyone who wants to pre order a set of the Signature Elate 6 three way splits and pay a 50% deposit will receive a 25% discount bringing the price down to $1,746.75

A saving of $582.25 !



This offer is only open for a very short time.

Wow, why must you taunt me like this. If only August wasn't so far away. Do you want to loan me some speakers in the meantime Phil



Damn you.... you have a pm

nice saving there

lot of cash to lay down though, without being able to hear it first

doesn't sound like it's going to stop people though!

- Stooge007 out

Perth sucks for auditioning, I am finding that I pretty much have to lay down a massive amount of cash for something that I will never get to hear. Apart from Dyns most of the "upper tier" speakers are never run on demo boards.

even demo boards aren't that useful, as speakers tend to sound quite a bit different actually installed in a car, but they're a start

i have no doubt these elates will be the business though

- Stooge007 out

These could be the greatest speakers since sliced bread, and seeing as I like the Elates, Im sure they are. However, how many people do you know who would be willing to shell that sort of money on a speaker set that they havent listened to?? In Phils own words, Morel isnt everyone's 'cuppa'.

Id hate to be the one who loves Elates, not fussed with Supremos and only discover after paying that the Elate SS isnt my 'cuppa'.

My question though, is if these things are the greatest set since sliced bread was invented, why isnt it a permanent line? The only reason companies generate 'limited edition' sets is for marketing and commercial interests. It makes no sense to release a top-line product for a limited time only.

I don't agree with that, it depends on how smart the company is, the reason you have stated thematt would be the scheme of a greedy company.

Morel in my eyes will be making no money from this line of speakers, there are far too few of them, add up time of building, R&D, boxing them, shipping them and it looks like they will have wasted their own money.
Why would a company do this?
Because they are a serious company and they are not screwing around trying to draw peoples pockets clean, they want people to talk about the speakers and eventually hear the speakers, potentially after having heard these speakers people will be saying OMFG, sometimes clever companies loose money to make money in the long run.
Occasionally an incredible product is made the company knows they will loose money but in return gain more credit than initially had, and then they watch the profits rise.

The Elate system has won many awards around the world, the Elate SS are to celebrate a mile stone in the companies history with this product line.

Its not unlike Ford or Holden celebrating a model such as Falcon or Commodore with a comemorative edition that is optioned to the buggery, these will be just a little more rare with very very few pieces to hit Australia.

I see the intent to the release, and agree with your statement somewhat 1point21gigawatts (and Phil), and just like units such as the concorde and the bugatti, understand the reasons.

However, the one thing seperating them from these units, is these units are not pushing the relms of Engineering, R&D or design. They are simply hardcore spanking units developed for the elite. Should be no reason why you cant just jack up the price and make them a permanent edition, like the Rainbow Reference range, or the Brax Matrix Elite.

I think its a great idea, but limited runs IMO serve no purpose unless you are pushing the boundaries.

The boundries are being pushed, increased x-max, crossover design, mid & tweeter design etc.

And some seem to be missing the point that these are to celebrate the sucess of a model, namely Elate.

There are people who want the excellent especially when they are very rare, this is such a product for them.



Already we have sold some.

You will get to hear them installed in my car Matt.... come august...

Just looking for an update Phil, I've waited so long, I almost forgot.

phil,

the limited edition elates are about $2300. putting aside the fact that they are limited edition, in terms of engineering and sq, how much better are they compared to the supremos which are about $1800 cosidering they're both in the same family

Its very hard to say exactly as the Elate SS are a very different speaker series.



The ESS will have a mid driver with very high X-Max that will certaily stand out and over the standard version. the mids are also being re-engineered and the tweeter will be way above the standard tweeter and very close to the Supremo Picolo.



But having not seen or heard the ESS I really cant tell you.



The other point is that there is no 3 way crossover for the Supremo



If you were to take the Supremo two way price at $1,719 add the CDM88 $338 and assume a three way crossover would be 20% more than the Supremo 2-Way $537 you would have a $2,594 system.



You have to realise that in buying the ESS there is a premium price being paid in as much as they are strictly limited edition in a special presentation box signed by Meir the owner of Morel.

i do realise there will be a premium as they are a limited edition, just wondering about the merits of the SS compared to the supremos... in any case... am happy with my regular elates for the moment.

Morel have notified all distributors that the Elate Signature Series are behind schedule due to the release of the new subwoofer.



The new release date is scheduled for sometime in October.



RMA will be air freighting some of these as soon as they are available.

whyyyyyyyyy