KIRBO
May 28 2007, 03:26 PM
When I was in the market for a 2DIN DVD Headunit, the Alpine W200 suited the job perfect. When researching via salesperson and the internet it was apparent I
will be able to connect the infamous PXA-H701 and have full functionality of it using the touch screen! Perfect!
Can anybody clarify that
I will have full functionality of the PXA-H701 using my current IVA-W200RiQuote from IVA-W200Ri Manual:QUOTE
External Audio Processor (Optional)
When an external audio processor is connected to this unit, you can operate it from this unit. Some audio processors may not be operated. In this case, operate them in the connected product. Explanations below is the case when PXA-H700 or PXA-H701 is connected for example. Refer also to the operating instructions of the connected audio processor.
• The adjustments or settings performed on the connected audio
processor cannot be operated properly from this unit.
• The setting “Setting the Speakers”, “Setting Bass Sound Control”,
and “Graphic Equalizer Adjustments” are not available if the
MRA-D550 is connected. Additionally, if the MRA-F350 is
connected, the following setting “Setting the MX mode” is not
available. Also, the setting content differs between the PXA-H700
and PXA-H701.
• This unit cannot be connected to the PXA-H510 and PXA-H900.
The Parking Brake must be engaged to access the Audio
Processor mode screen. Attempting to access this screen
while driving will display the warning-CAN’T OPERATE WHILE
DRIVING
Also, yesterday at my first SQ comp I scored poorly playing a "zero bit" track with my engine "off". But engine "on" scored well. I will be rebuilding my system to find a cause,
BUT I have been told that my IVA-W200Ri may be the cause, thus unavoidable. Can anybody shed some light on this?
Thanks in advance guys!
Kirbo.
Pulse-R
May 28 2007, 03:43 PM
the H701 processor works fine with the W200 - as long as you DONT have a MRA-D550 (digital theater amplifier).
not sure what you mean by pink noise - the only tests in CAA/MEASQ is 'zero bit(no noise)' or music.
if you have noise with the engine off only, then maybe the engine itself drowns out the noise when going... turning down the amp gains will likely help this.
mad89
May 28 2007, 05:24 PM
QUOTE (KIRBO @ May 28 2007, 03:26 PM)
BUT I have been told that my IVA-W200Ri may be the cause, thus unavoidable. Can anybody shed some light on this?
Thanks in advance guys!
Kirbo.
What sort of noise? are you sure that the noise wasnt mistaken for the Fan in the back of the HU?
I know my 9835 fan gets a bit noisy after a while of use, and is inaudible with the car on, OR above say ~7-8 volume. Apparently this is also an 'issue' with 9855R's etc...
However, i dont think that the judges make down/penalise you for fan humming or whatever...
It would be a good idea just to clarify exactly what the noise is...
I could also be wrong
It was just something that sprung to mind, thats worth checking
Let us know how it goes...
KIRBO
May 28 2007, 06:03 PM
Cheers for the input guys, much appreciated! I'll clarify the track name & function later today/tonight. I think your right
pulse-r, I was going by the track listing of the
Chesky Records disc used for the comp. Perhaps another disc was also used for the zero bit test.
According to the judges, there is a quiet hissing sound (during the "zero bit" track?)
ALSO when turning the volume up, a noticeable yet quiet noise occurs per notch in volume... like volume12 "tic" volume13 "tic" volume14 etc. And yes
Mad89, as you said the fan/disc spinning is audible + sure they could tell the noise wasn’t coming from the speakers. Well hope so anyways. Haha
Cheers,
Kirbo.
Woody
May 28 2007, 06:26 PM
The W200RI is very compatable with the 701 unit. It is the very set-up that I use in my own car.
As far as the noise go, I highly doubt that it is the head-unit. I have never heard anyone complain about one of these units being noisy. Mine certainly isnt.
Wood
~thematt~
May 28 2007, 07:11 PM
We used track 41 of my disc for the 0-bit test, and Chesky for the rest of it. Couldnt find any noise tests on Chesky. Kirbo, the 0bit noise test is literally a nothing-ness sound. If its clean, you cant hear anything, even at full volume.
The reason we gave you the score you got on engine off was because it was quite audible, inclusive of slight ticks, when the volume went up. At max volume, it wasnt in dispute. However, with the engine on, we honestly couldnt hear it over the engine. It wasnt a fan though, that I assure you.
I doubt its the headunit myself to be honest, I personally think its more to do with your amplifiers and the gains.
Music Pirate
May 28 2007, 07:39 PM
Thats what you get for buying a Volvo Duncan
haha jk mate!
Did you get arround to fixing the noice yet?
KIRBO
May 28 2007, 07:45 PM
Thanks for the response Matt & Woody. I knew you guys would be trawling the SQ forums at some stage!
I'm glad to hear that many of you don't think it’s the Head unit; Tim put the awful thoughts in my head! haha. I will be trying to eliminate noise before I get the 701...
If anybody else has their 2cents, would love to hear it! Ahh I can sleep well knowing the IVA-W200Ri + PXA-H701 work beautifully in unison. As many have claimed! Mmmism.
Cheers!
fury
May 28 2007, 07:47 PM
Some headunits actually have an inbuilt "click" when you press buttons.
I know this can be turned on/off with the D310, probably the same as the W200... could this have been it? If so it's hardly system noise, or hazardous to the music.
SirNemesis
May 28 2007, 08:01 PM
My W202E picks up my remote, and makes a slighty buzz/hiss through the tweeters when I push a button.
~thematt~
May 28 2007, 08:45 PM
QUOTE (Fury @ May 28 2007, 05:47 PM)
Some headunits actually have an inbuilt "click" when you press buttons.
I know this can be turned on/off with the D310, probably the same as the W200... could this have been it? If so it's hardly system noise, or hazardous to the music.
You mean the sound to the pulse-touch feature??? Nup, it wasnt that. Though it is annoying, there isnt any capacity for annoying points in the score sheet!!
zion187reigneth
May 28 2007, 09:12 PM
yeah i gotta comment , check your RCA layout, your hu and amp chassis position to the car body, hu and amp earths..........cors
KIRBO
May 28 2007, 09:16 PM
Cheers guys. This thread is going to be a huge help!
QUOTE (~thematt~ @ May 28 2007, 06:45 PM)
You mean the sound to the pulse-touch feature??? Nup, it wasnt that. Though it is annoying, there isnt any capacity for annoying points in the score sheet!!
You just wish your system
touched you back! I have noises and pulse touch turned on so i keep my eyes on the road. Next time your judging i'll turn both off. Although I will continue to do homosexual voiceovers with Charger when your trying to judge.
Matt: "Hey woob, you know i grew this beard for you baby"
Woob: "mmm it...
Lets leave it at that. Hahaha
Just kidden around.
Kirbo
Pulse-R
May 28 2007, 09:18 PM
zipper noise, or volume clicks, can be associated with the amplifier's input stage picking up small variations in the output impedance of the head unit's RCA signal. the noise is caused by the switching of the output attenuator between 'taps'. an RCA line isolator should fix this quick, but it can sometimes be caused by the amp not having a good enough earth, or a faulty RCA cable.
antisven
May 29 2007, 09:48 AM
are you using the optical output???
Gonadman2
May 29 2007, 11:20 AM
Kirbo, I disconnected the outputs on my 3Sixty yesterday and I can still hear hissing from my system with the engine off. I use a pair of MRV-F345's with the gains set at 4V for the front stage and it is quite audible. See what happens when you disconnect the amps from the source - it should give you a good indication as to where the noise is coming from.
KIRBO
May 29 2007, 11:52 AM
QUOTE (antisven @ May 29 2007, 07:48 AM)
are you using the optical output???
No, just the W200Ri then RCAs to the amplifiers located in the boot. When i obtain a 701, do you suggest i link the units via optical? Toby, i'll rip it apart and let ya'll know.
Can anybody give me a link for a zero bit track, or hook me up in Perth?
Cheers guys!
antisven
May 29 2007, 12:48 PM
well i found out when i got my h-701 that the ai-net analogue input was pretty damn noisy, and when i tried using just rcas, i has to set the input on the 701 down and use the volume on the deck to keep the noise dopwn, but it was still there, but when i added the optical cable the noise was eliminated, but when you use the optical input on the 701 make sure you use it in conjuction with ai-net otherwise you wont be hearing any radio, as that can only be sent via the ai-net connection
~thematt~
May 29 2007, 07:01 PM
Antisven, Kirbo is running just the deck at the moment, no processor. When he does connect the processor, Ill personally make sure he runs the optical
QUOTE (KIRBO @ May 29 2007, 09:52 AM)
No, just the W200Ri then RCAs to the amplifiers located in the boot. When i obtain a 701, do you suggest i link the units via optical? Toby, i'll rip it apart and let ya'll know.
Can anybody give me a link for a zero bit track, or hook me up in Perth?
Cheers guys!
My Disc, track 41. I have a copy, so does Woob, and prolly a few others. Otherwise buy it from Audiodisks.
HISPL
May 29 2007, 10:49 PM
QUOTE (Gonadman2 @ May 29 2007, 01:20 AM)
Kirbo, I disconnected the outputs on my 3Sixty yesterday and I can still hear hissing from my system with the engine off. I use a pair of MRV-F345's with the gains set at 4V for the front stage and it is quite audible. See what happens when you disconnect the amps from the source - it should give you a good indication as to where the noise is coming from.
You have a VE Commodore don't you? They are one of the most challenging cars I have seen lately for engine noise.
We had a vehicle that had a 360.1 cable tied under the dash and it had bad noise, cut the cable tie and let the 360.1 drop to the floor no noise... we ended up moving it about 3 inches under the dash and it fixed the problem
I think there will be a lot of trial and error on your part or for your installer to get the system noise free, the problem is that the better the amps and speakers that you have the more noticeable it will be!
Gonadman2
May 30 2007, 12:11 PM
QUOTE (HISPL @ May 29 2007, 11:49 PM)
You have a VE Commodore don't you? They are one of the most challenging cars I have seen lately for engine noise.
We had a vehicle that had a 360.1 cable tied under the dash and it had bad noise, cut the cable tie and let the 360.1 drop to the floor no noise... we ended up moving it about 3 inches under the dash and it fixed the problem
I think there will be a lot of trial and error on your part or for your installer to get the system noise free, the problem is that the better the amps and speakers that you have the more noticeable it will be!
That's interesting to hear. I was referring to amp noise only, and that I could hear the amps 'hissing' even though they weren't connected to a source, merely powered up, and that the gains were set as low as they go.
When you say 'bad noise' is that alternator whine? My amps and 3Sixty are mounted in the boot so that I could run the high level inputs as close to the amps as possible. I am currently suffering some alternator whine, but that has more to do with my dodgy daisy-chained earthing and little to do with where my 3Sixty is mounted - I think.
I will be getting all of my wiring, terminals, and distro this week sometime, so it will be interesting to see how I go. Cheer's for the heads up - looks like I won't be screwing the 3Sixty down just yet!
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